Proposal: NYR/Mon

[Tawnos]

What do NYR fans think Kakko is worth straight up? 2nd round pick?

There's no trade for futures that would be worth it for the Rangers. It's not that he's got more value than that, it's that the possibility of him at least getting his game back to where it was last year is worth more to the team at the moment than a draft pick would be.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Provided he doesn't get injured by the trade deadline, a team will be desperate enough to offer more for Monahan than the garbage that is being offered here.

 

[smoneil]

Why? Habs are forced to take your nuclear waste in the trade. And all fir a complete bust.

Habs will trade Monahan in a separate deal and not have to take any toxic waste back.

NYR will have to buy out Goodrow. That contract is toxic.

Kakko scored 40 points last year as a 21 year old with a great defensive side to his game. He's having a rough start to a season where he missed a ton of time and is learning to play for a new coach (again). Is he where we hoped he'd be? Of course not. Is he a complete bust? Not even in the same zip code (and sadly, as Ranger fans, we've seen enough complete busts to know one when we see one).

And for the millionth time--the Rangers aren't going to pay through the nose to offload Goodrow. He has what has to be the most team-friendly buyout in the league (it really only costs for one season, and even then the number isn't that high, and in the first season post-buyout, it would actually SAVE money on the cap).

 

[smoneil]

and Perreault is a last year 23rd... but I give you that I would have pick him before 20 for sure abd you shouldnt deal him.

Since draft day, he's gone on to be the leading scorer at BC (ahead of Will Smith and Cutter Gauthier--two guys who went top 5, one of whom is a year older). That kinda matters. The Rangers aren't trading a guy like that for a couple of months of Monahan. Even if Monahan were extended AT his current cap hit, I doubt that Rangers even consider making Perrault available.

 

[Habs10025]

If Monahan is traded its doubtful it will be to the NYR

 

[HabsAddict]

Not saying other teams should be falling all over themselves to trade for Kakko, but EVANS? Really? Evans is almost 5 years older and his career high is 29 points. Kakko scored 40 points last season as a 21/22 year old. That, combined with the fact that our RW depth is shit and we wouldn't get a ton in return for him (I still think someone would pay a late 1st or a 2nd rounder), and it doesn't make sense to trade Kakko to begin with. Better to hold on to him and see if he breaks out of the funk he's been in this season. Either way, he would--at a minimum--return a 2nd round pick, while Evans could conceivably go through waivers and not get claimed. A world of difference between these two.

A 40 point Kakko is not a 6 point Kakko.

I don't know why he's dropped so far and we can't be sure that his "normal" is a 40 point 3rd, bordering 2nd liner.

He's not worth trading at this pont because his value is the lowest it's been in his career. Keep him and rehabilitate him.

As for Evans, his value is a very late 2nd or a 3rd. He's a center that is bordeline 3rd liner.

 

[bleuetbio]

He's also the steal of the draft that has only increased in value. He goes top 10 in a redraft.

Well educated HF have Perreault on their top 12, some even in their 10. His production isnt realy a surprise. the concerns are the same now that they were. That said, you got a diamond in the rough.

 

[bernmeister]

A 40 point Kakko is not a 6 point Kakko.

I don't know why he's dropped so far and we can't be sure that his "normal" is a 40 point 3rd, bordering 2nd liner.

He's not worth trading at this pont because his value is the lowest it's been in his career. Keep him and rehabilitate him.

As for Evans, his value is a very late 2nd or a 3rd. He's a center that is bordeline 3rd liner.

one mo time
Kakko has proven w/correct linemates he has chemistry, produces, evidence of this is kid line which had Chytil and underdeveloped LaF [skating barely par last yr, NOW fully par and improving]
We ALREADY NOW see Cuylle + Kakko works very well
we just need to find them a pivot

 

[HabsAddict]

one mo time
Kakko has proven w/correct linemates he has chemistry, produces, evidence of this is kid line which had Chytil and underdeveloped LaF [skating barely par last yr, NOW fully par and improving]
We ALREADY NOW see Cuylle + Kakko works very well
we just need to find them a pivot

Great. Keep him.

We need to get the most value for Monahan and Kakko is not it.

Moving on...

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Interesting nugget in The Athletic about how there is bad blood between Drury and Gorton and, as such, there's little chance the two orgs would make deals with each other.

This came up in an article speculating NYR potential trade targets. It was in the context of Monahan being someone who might be of interest if not for the bad feelings.

 

[Moose Head]

Interesting nugget in The Athletic about how there is bad blood between Drury and Gorton and, as such, there's little chance the two orgs would make deals with each other.

This came up in an article speculating NYR potential trade targets. It was in the context of Monahan being someone who might be of interest if not for the bad feelings.

Hughes negotiates trades for the Habs.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I guess it depends on the view of Kakko, but this really makes very little sense for Montreal.

I don't think Kakko is a bust and he may find another level or two as well, but he has almost 300 games in the regular season and playoffs. Odds are he's just going to be a defense first winger. Which has value, but he's not what a team like Montreal would target in a trade. Its irrelevant that Goodrow has a comparatively decent buyout (5 years 1 mil + dead cap space isn't good), its unlikely that Montreal or any rebuilding team would be willing to take his contract right now. Maybe in 2025, but not now. Jones has been, by some margin, the worst Ranger this season and Montreal has a ton of young LD they'd rather be playing in the NHL and AHL. And Pitlick is a throw in.