Dreger: NYR interested in Rickard Rakell, JT Miller & Ben Chiarot

[BatVader]

Panarin and Mika aren’t getting younger. Kreider is having a career year. The goaltending is beyond spectacular. The Rangers should take advantage of this opportunity right now. Two playoffs with Miller right now is wise. In two years will the Rangers be this good?

Imagine what 2 playoff runs of Scheifele would add to that team.
Jets would likely have to take Strome back for NYR cap reasons, but I’m positive a deal including Schneider could be worked out.

 

[pld459666]

3-4 best players***. Zib, Krieder, and Panarin are the important ones. They are all 29-31.

That's OK.

The only deal that will bite us in the ass is Mika hopefully 3+ years down the line.

In goal, we are set

Average age of D (with Trouba and Nemeth) is under 25, lower when you move Nemeth or Hajek for Jones.

Average age of the forward group WITH Panarin, Kreider, Zibanejad, Strome and Goodrow, Reaves and Kegger is 27 (rounded up)

Strome, McKegg and possible CK can all be gone as soon as this summer.

I'm not worried even a little about the age make up of this team

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I literally says "Lundkvist as the prospect piece of a potential deal"

No one suggested Lundkvist for Miller

Lundqvist will not be the main part of the deal

 

[japhi]

He's not better than any of Trouba, Miller, Fox, or Lindgren. And i wouldn't play him over Schneider, bc honestly if Schneider isn't already better than Chiarot, he will be in short order.

I’m not sure thats true, I suspect you haven’t watched him play much and I don’t know a whole lot about Lindgren or Miller. Watched Trouba a lot and have never been a fan.

Listen, all good if you love your D, if they are all better then Chiarot plus your goaltending then you have the best backend in hockey. Does make
me wonder why your goalie has to be out of this world in front of such a great d core.

 

[Alluckks]

Jarnkrok and Rakell make the most sense

Continually checking in on Miller is good due diligence but there isn't a deal there to be had

Chairot will go to someone willing to meet Montreal's high asking price. There doesn't seem to be as much decent veteran D available this TDL.

 

[docbenton]

Eichel couldn't get Drysdale so I would hope nobody thinks Miller return one of those.

Miller is almost certainly a better player and asset (contract considerations) than Eichel right now with less risk. He doesn't have the name recognition but he's simply among the best players in the game. He's also maybe the most versatile player, playing all positions, great on faceoffs, brings all the tools of speed, power/physicality, finesse, shot and passing, specialty teams play, high pace and intensity. As an asset I'd rate him at least a tier above Eichel, and that might be generous to Eichel.

 

[Kupo]

The Rangers?

or Ranger fans on internet message boards?

Because there has been like 10 multiple reports that the Rangers want Miller badly

And there have been reports saying that the Nucks want Schneider but he’s a non starter. Why didn’t you include that in your post?

 

[rangersfansince08]

Imagine what 2 playoff runs of Scheifele would add to that team.
Jets would likely have to take Strome back for NYR cap reasons, but I’m positive a deal including Schneider could be worked out.

Rangers have 30 m in cap so why would they need to take Strome back?

 

[UnSandvich]

"As of last week, it was thought the Canucks were insisting on young Rangers defenseman Braden Schneider in return. That’s a non-starter for the Rangers, so they may end up looking elsewhere unless Vancouver takes an interest in Nils Lundkvist as the prospect piece of a potential deal."

What we're hearing about the Rangers, version 3.0: J.T. Miller’s trade cost, Kraken targets, selling cap space, more

 

[rangersfansince08]

Miller is almost certainly a better player and asset (contract considerations) than Eichel right now with less risk. He doesn't have the name recognition but he's simply among the best players in the game. He's also maybe the most versatile player, playing all positions, great on faceoffs, brings all the tools of speed, power/physicality, finesse, shot and passing, specialty teams play, high pace and intensity. As an asset I'd rate him at least a tier above Eichel, and that might be generous to Eichel.

How quickly people forget how good Eichel was.

 

[deckercky]

No, because of the contract status. I think Kakko is gonna be great but there's risk that he won't be and we know what Miller is. So, the value is there but KK is 20 and cheap for now so, no.

Its a bit weird comparing Miller's 5.25 to Laf and Kakko's ELCs when you think it through. Obviously, Miller is better now, but if Laf or Kakko start playing pretty well, they'll hit bonuses and won't have a cap hit that much lower than Miller ($5.25 vs. 3.575/3.775). Laf and Miller have the same term under contract (with Laf having RFA control years). Kakko is obviously an RFA, highly touted but whose play hasn't matched. Not sure where that ends up.

 

[Lays]

Lafreniere, Schneider, or K’Andre for JT? Absolutely not. Those 3 are the future of NYR and are extremely valuable right now as contributors on their ELC’s

 

[Barnaby]

Lundqvist will not be the main part of the deal

Never say never.

I remember when the Rangers were auctioning off Ryan McDonagh. A lot of Ranger fans were insistent that a big time prospect - Point or Sergachev - would be involved. We got back Howden and Hajek...

 

[UnSandvich]

"If the Rangers decide that their first-rounder should be spent on a defenseman (highly unlikely, but hey, we have to discuss it), Mark Giordano is on their radar."

Same article, for all those who keep acting like the Rangers need to waste a 1st round pick on an anchor like Ben Chiarot (who, btw, isn't mentioned once in the article)

 

[Lays]

Neither Schneider or K'andre Miller are even true A prospects, maybe A-. They're fine, but don't really move the pulse for me. Also regardless of what Rangers fans on HF boards thinks, certainly sounds like your management is continuing to pursue JT, so maybe you're the ones who are out of touch with reality. They might even think they ARE cup contenders.

K’Andre and Schneider aren’t A pieces. Those are guys like Makar and Fox. But K’Andre and Schneider are both future top pair defenseman, no question at this point

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Be funny if in a few years that Lundqvist is the best player out of all this… surpassing Schneider, etc.

 

[Barnaby]

I think people regularly forget that high end picks are rarely dealt. More regularly it’s more of a pick heavy deal.

 

[5cotland]

Lundqvist will not be the main part of the deal

Yet again, no one said primary piece.

 

[BatVader]

Rangers have 30 m in cap so why would they need to take Strome back?

Even better

 

[WhoTagz]

 

[Siludin]

The Canucks have alot of teams to jump over. They are in striking distance but still likely not to be a playoff team.

They aren't going to trade Miller if they are in striking distance when he is signed for next reason.
Literally no reason to do so.
The Canucks have 8 games before the deadline - if they continue their overall trend since Bruce took over within that time, they're in the playoffs.

 

[Lion Hound]

Foreshadowing!

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Never say never.

I remember when the Rangers were auctioning off Ryan McDonagh. A lot of Ranger fans were insistent that a big time prospect - Point or Sergachev - would be involved. We got back Howden and Hajek...

Tampa underpaid forsure. But we're talking about a player Top 12 in scoring in his prime and an insane contract. As good as McDonagh was, Miller is on another level.

 

[Seventy7]

Lafreniere, Schneider and Kakko aren't getting traded. All are important parts of the team going forward. I don't think either Othmann or Cuylle are available.

Available pieces are Lundkvist, Jones, Robertson, Chytil, Barron, Gauthier, 1st, NYR 2nd, St. Louis 2nd. And other lesser players, prospects and picks.

K. We’ll take all of that

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Be funny if in a few years that Lundqvist is the best player out of all this… surpassing Schneider, etc.

I think it's highly possible. He's got the best offensive skillset out of all the Rangers prospects. He's also a luxury item considering he's behind two players not going anywhere (Fox, Trouba) and a third that fits what they're lacking in size (Schneider).