Number One Defensemen in NHL

[joe dirte]

vlasic’s the best d in the nhl

he's pretty amazing at both ends. best in the NHL? no. great dman though.

 

[joe dirte]

No he isn't.

top 5 two way dman though. somewhere behind doughty and hedman. maybe number 3.

 

[joe dirte]

I just thought this was funny because the snark was coupled with a ridiculously funny typo.

Karlsson is absolutely a number one defenseman. If Ottawa somehow got another defenseman who is better and takes on the top role then, yeah, they would likely be contenders. Saying that you don't think he will ever win a Cup as the number 1 isn't very convincing, if only because of what I just said.

never really tried to say otherwise. I don't think he will ever be number 1 dman on a cup winning team. any team. if you're trying to tell me he needs a better dman on his team to win a cup well you agree with me then.

 

[joe dirte]

The usual...you can not have Werenski on any list and not have Provorov.

meh. as a neutral fan of easily take werenski ahead of provorov.

 

[joe dirte]

Did I miss the past 2 years?

doughty wasn't great last year but on average he is the best 2 way dman in the NHL.

 

[ViD]

# 1 d man is someone who can successfully log 28-29 minutes a game while being reaponsible defensively and productive offensively

 

[joe dirte]

Good one

are you joking? you dont think Letang is a top dman?

a healthy Letang is arguably the best dman in the league.

 

[joe dirte]

Karlsson, Karlsson, Karlsson...

Now that I'm done with the obligatory mentioning of Karlsson without reason... Yes, Leafs lack a 1D.

There are too few clear cut 1Ds in the league. Many recent promised ones couldn't quite reach the level. That is why the market is starving for quality D-men and a lot of D-men get overpayed.

Right now I'd say:

Doughty, Hedman, Keith, Burns, Karlsson

Even guys like Subban, Josi or Pietrangelo I see as borderline guys.

In the near future Werenski and Provorov could join the group.

yeah. I can see where this guy is coming from.

 

[LeafFever]

doughty wasn't great last year but on average he is the best 2 way dman in the NHL.

Karlsson is better overall than Doughty.

 

[joe dirte]

Karlsson is better overall than Doughty.

thank you for your opinion.

 

[LeafFever]

thank you for your opinion.

I have never seen Doughty dominate like Karlsson did in the playoffs last year. He was unbelievable.

 

[joe dirte]

I have never seen Doughty dominate like Karlsson did in the playoffs last year. He was unbelievable.

I have. sorry you missed it?

 

[LeafFever]

I have. sorry you missed it?

When exactly?

 

[PenguinSpeed]

are you joking? you dont think Letang is a top dman?

a healthy Letang is arguably the best dman in the league.

-He isnt healthy right now, and isnt playing like an Elite or even good D1 currently. He's had a lot of injuries over the years. For a fair judgement, if he was fully healthy Im not sure where I would rank him myself. I also do not know how well he will recover from his last injury. What I do know is Letang shows up in the playoffs when healthy.

 

[joe dirte]

-He isnt healthy right now, and isnt playing like an Elite or even good D1 currently. He's had a lot of injuries over the years. For a fair judgement, if he was fully healthy Im not sure where I would rank him myself. I also do not know how well he will recover from his last injury. What I do know is Letang shows up in the playoffs when healthy.

he shows up in every game when he's healthy.

 

[gumgum]

top 5 two way dman though. somewhere behind doughty and hedman. maybe number 3.

he is the best all around defenseman in hockey and has been for some time

 

[LeafFever]

he is the best all around defenseman in hockey and has been for some time

This. He clearly is the best.

 

[gumgum]

This. He clearly is the best.

https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com...p-20-defensemen-in-the-nhl-right-now-for-real

here's a fairly palatable break down of some of the top d in the nhl and their measurable impact vs. other elite d. another good way to make a determination is to watch the players yourself, though

 

[nowhereman]

I've never agreed with the idea that there are only 10-12 #1 defensemen in the NHL. I think that's a case of having too strict a definition of what constitutes a #1 defenseman. However, that doesn't seem to be the case with #1 centers. IMO, Johansen, Monahan, and Barkov are #1 centers and many others would say the same, even though they're nowhere near the level of a Crosby or a McDavid. In that same vein, I would still consider a defenseman like Vlasic or Carlson a #1 defenseman, even though they are clearly not in the Karlsson/Hedman/Doughty tier.

I think people need to broaden their definition of the term "#1 defensemen" beyond Norris-caliber players.

 

[LAKings88]

I have never seen Doughty dominate like Karlsson did in the playoffs last year. He was unbelievable.

Doughty is brilliant in the Olympics. Was brilliant on both cup winning LA teams. May not be as offensively gifted as Karlsson but he can and does dominate games. Not just in the o zone either.

 

[joe dirte]

This. He clearly is the best.

so i guess we have a few votes for vlasic?

okay

 

[Signupnow]

Doughty is brilliant in the Olympics. Was brilliant on both cup winning LA teams. May not be as offensively gifted as Karlsson but he can and does dominate games. Not just in the o zone either.

Lets not forget how Erik Karlsson was even better in the olympics leading the whole tournament in points and was not on ice for a single goal against while playing with inferior teammates.

 

[TB1299]

Lets not forget how Erik Karlsson was even better in the olympics leading the whole tournament in points and was not on ice for a single goal against while playing with inferior teammates.

Lol exactly.

Karlsson was named the best defenceman of the tournament. Was not one the ice for a single goal against and led the olympics in scoring.