Waived: NSH Waives Mike Ribeiro - Clears

[GoldenSeal]

If a player sent down is traded, does their contract, if retained, count towards the Cap? If not, this might be one of those reasons why those '29 other GMs' didn't put a bid in on him. His past is definitely a red flag but a phone call to Nashville's GM can determine if the guy's changed his ways or not.

 

[swimmer77]

I always kind of liked his style of play on the ice. I thought he had turned a corner in Nashville in terms of behavioral issues. I don't follow the team that closely so I don't know. But if his attitude is as crappy as some imply could we at least give him some credit for reporting to the farm if in fact he has?

 

[Starat327]

I always kind of liked his style of play on the ice. I thought he had turned a corner in Nashville in terms of behavioral issues. I don't follow the team that closely so I don't know. But if his attitude is as crappy as some imply could we at least give him some credit for reporting to the farm if in fact he has?

Give him credit for doing his job? No.

If my boss tells me I have to go manage a smaller location than the one I do currently, i don't say "No, I'm better than that. I refuse." I go do it, because that's what my employer asked me to do.

 

[beowulf]

Give him credit for doing his job? No.

If my boss tells me I have to go manage a smaller location than the one I do currently, i don't say "No, I'm better than that. I refuse." I go do it, because that's what my employer asked me to do.

True but lets face it, NHLers that have done less in their career than him have not reported when asked. Heck didn't Gregory Campbell refuse to report at the start of the season?

I think Ribs need the money and he also likely thinks he will be called back up so even if it means riding the bus for now he is going to do it.

 

[Starat327]

True but lets face it, NHLers that have done less in their career than him have not reported when asked. Heck didn't Gregory Campbell refuse to report at the start of the season?

I think Ribs need the money and he also likely thinks he will be called back up so even if it means riding the bus for now he is going to do it.

Oh, for sure. He wouldn't be the first to not report, and he wouldn't be the last either. It isn't me being upset with his particular situation, just the idea as a whole. I'm not going to put him on a pedestal because he decided he'd be ok with 'slumming' it in the AHL, while, I'd imagine, making the same money as he would in the NHL.

 

[AINEC*]

Give him credit for doing his job? No.

If my boss tells me I have to go manage a smaller location than the one I do currently, i don't say "No, I'm better than that. I refuse." I go do it, because that's what my employer asked me to do.

Congratulations on going to work today!

 

[kypredsfan]

Most of us grew tired of his appeared laziness in games lately. However, he seems to sound actually "happy" being in Milwaukee. Listen here, I'm surprised at his perceived attitude in this interview.

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[Starat327]

Congratulations on going to work today!

Would you believe I did it independently of a "Great Job!" and pat on the back?

 

[nomorekids]

Poile was on Nashville radio this morning talking about this situation:

-Primary issue is that Predators are trying to build their team, specifically their scoring lines, on speed\attacking offense. Poile didn't mince words, "Ribeiro is not a fast player."

-When it became apparent that he was going to be an extra forward when the health of the roster permitted, Ribeiro asked for trade.

-Poile offered him in trade, found no takers. Put him on waivers, no takers.

-Ribeiro stated that they were making a mistake, committed to going to AHL and earning way back -- Poile hopes he does it (though reading tone I think he implied that it would be in such a way that he boosted his trade value and made such a comeback elsewhere; his time as a Predator seems to be over)

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Poile was on Nashville radio this morning talking about this situation:

-Primary issue is that Predators are trying to build their team, specifically their scoring lines, on speed\attacking offense. Poile didn't mince words, "Ribeiro is not a fast player."

-When it became apparent that he was going to be an extra forward when the health of the roster permitted, Ribeiro asked for trade.

-Poile offered him in trade, found no takers. Put him on waivers, no takers.

-Ribeiro stated that they were making a mistake, committed to going to AHL and earning way back -- Poile hopes he does it (though reading tone I think he implied that it would be in such a way that he boosted his trade value and made such a comeback elsewhere; his time as a Predator seems to be over)

Sounds about right. Ribiero is still probably the best passer on our team, but that's about it. Just didn't bring enough speed, defensive play, shooting ability, etc. He was good for one insane set-up per game and about three dumb turnovers.

If someone does trade for him, they should play him on a line with a pure sniper and a defensively-focused net presence. Has a chance to be a decent depth option.

 

[AINEC*]

Would you believe I did it independently of a "Great Job!" and pat on the back?

I'm still waiting on my director to drop by and give me a high five for my efforts. These working conditions are miserable.

 

[izzy]

Sounds about right. Ribiero is still probably the best passer on our team, but that's about it. Just didn't bring enough speed, defensive play, shooting ability, etc. He was good for one insane set-up per game and about three dumb turnovers.

If someone does trade for him, they should play him on a line with a pure sniper and a defensively-focused net presence. Has a chance to be a decent depth option.

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[Mortiest Morty]

I'm still waiting on my director to drop by and give me a high five for my efforts. These working conditions are miserable.

Maybe he'll drop by and can you for not being nearly as clever as you think.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Give him credit for doing his job? No.

If my boss tells me I have to go manage a smaller location than the one I do currently, i don't say "No, I'm better than that. I refuse." I go do it, because that's what my employer asked me to do.

It's not just "doing his job" per se. Using your example, would you still report to a demotion (not just managing, but a job demotion as well) if you knew that you were retiring or leaving for a new company in a few weeks anyway? You might, but you can be certain that many wouldn't, they'd just quit their job early.

 

[PredsV82]

It's not just "doing his job" per se. Using your example, would you still report to a demotion (not just managing, but a job demotion as well) if you knew that you were retiring or leaving for a new company in a few weeks anyway? You might, but you can be certain that many wouldn't, they'd just quit their job early.

except that he'd be forfeiting about 1.3 million dollars by not reporting. Thats not chump change, especially if you're likely to never get another contract

 

[Starat327]

It's not just "doing his job" per se. Using your example, would you still report to a demotion (not just managing, but a job demotion as well) if you knew that you were retiring or leaving for a new company in a few weeks anyway? You might, but you can be certain that many wouldn't, they'd just quit their job early.

Except it is doing his job. He signed a contract, which, while i do not have it in my possession, probably pretty exclusively states that he could be sent down to the minors at any given time. I'm rather sure of it, because he doesn't have a NMC.

And, if my work performance warranted it, and my company decided to demote me, yes, i'd absolutely report to my new position. I don't have the luxury of not collecting a paycheck. Pride doesn't pay the bills.

The best part is - he could have said "I dont like the idea of playing in the minors. So, I'll tell you what. Give me a NMC, and I'll take 500k less for that security." While i'm sure i could have tried to negotiate a 'no-demotion clause' into my offer letter, I'm fairly certain i'd have been laughed out of the room.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Except it is doing his job. He signed a contract, which, while i do not have it in my possession, probably pretty exclusively states that he could be sent down to the minors at any given time. I'm rather sure of it, because he doesn't have a NMC.

And, if my work performance warranted it, and my company decided to demote me, yes, i'd absolutely report to my new position. I don't have the luxury of not collecting a paycheck. Pride doesn't pay the bills.

The best part is - he could have said "I dont like the idea of playing in the minors. So, I'll tell you what. Give me a NMC, and I'll take 500k less for that security." While i'm sure i could have tried to negotiate a 'no-demotion clause' into my offer letter, I'm fairly certain i'd have been laughed out of the room.

Could he? It's entirely possible that the GM would have told him "no NMC", even if he offered to take less. Some GM's don't like to give those out at all, and Ribiero isn't exactly the type of player that warrants one.

As to your other point, if you didn't feel you needed the cash, would you still go? I'd guess that he does need it given the rumors of his past transgressions, but it isn't just a simple, "I'll do what the boss says" type situation. I wouldn't hold it against him if he didn't go and opted to retire instead, if he is ready to make that step.

 

[Starat327]

Could he? It's entirely possible that the GM would have told him "no NMC", even if he offered to take less. Some GM's don't like to give those out at all, and Ribiero isn't exactly the type of player that warrants one.

As to your other point, if you didn't feel you needed the cash, would you still go? I'd guess that he does need it given the rumors of his past transgressions, but it isn't just a simple, "I'll do what the boss says" type situation. I wouldn't hold it against him if he didn't go and opted to retire instead, if he is ready to make that step.

It's possible in regards to the NMC, but there's usually a point where a GM will give you a NMC if you go low enough on salary. It's a matter of what you want more. Security or Money.

If i felt i didn't need the cash, but had a contract (especially one that was over soon)? Absolutely. I signed on to do a job. I'll do said job because that's what I said I would do. And my work is hardly as glamorous as playing professional hockey.

 

[AINEC*]

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