Uh...not really...
You can't trade turris and Ceci for Duchene. You won't find a bigger supporter of acquiring duchene here, but what's the point if turris is going the other way and you're adding a trade chip like Ceci? It's not that big an upgrade imo.
Does this quote sound familiar?
Apparently Turris + Ceci is too much, but when Colorado gets the value of equivalent of Turris + Bowers + 1st + 3rd, it's not really a good deal? I get Ottawa prefers keeping Ceci, but for the package of 2018 1st + Bowers + 3rd is worth more than Ceci to the Avs.
Sakic did well.
I'm not too familir with the prospects but seems like an awful lot for Duchene ..who..while very good isn't the type o would think would garner 7 pieces.
Does this quote sound familiar?
Apparently Turris + Ceci is too much, but when Colorado gets the value of equivalent of Turris + Bowers + 1st + 3rd, it's not really a good deal? I get Ottawa prefers keeping Ceci, but for the package of 2018 1st + Bowers + 3rd is worth more than Ceci to the Avs.
I think one thing Sakic did well was making sure he brokered the trades on both fronts. That we he got a little extra value from both. For example, if he had let Ottawa trade Turris to Nashville and flip the assets to Colorado, Ottawa can say "well, that's 7 quality pieces there" for one guy. Versus now it's just 3 quality pieces for Turris, which is more than fair, and 4 quality pieces from Ottawa which is a less of an overpayment than if you consider that Ottawa would've found it harder to swallow giving up all 7 pieces themselves and consider maybe trimming down that 1st because "3 good prospects, a 2nd, and a 3rd" is enough for Duchene (or two 1sts, two 2nds and a 3rd if you consider Bowers and Girard as 1st round pick value). So cudos to Sakic for masquerading it as 3 pieces and 4 pieces for a #1C to the two teams.I hope Duchene and Turris do well for their new clubs, but Joe Sakic did a fantastic job here. Took so much crap for the past 2 years, and if anybody proposed anything close to what he got on these forums, they would have been laughed out of here. Kudos to Super Joe.
Uh...not really...
Emphasis on for the Avs there. Ceci and Turris was a non starter without question.
We'll trade Ceci, he'll be too expensive and he'll have to be replaced internally, but he'll net a really nice player on his own.
Wouldn't have been at all pleased if that was the deal
The first is good, but it's a bunch of prospects and a minor league goalie. People were throwing around Hanifin or Ekholm on here.I hope Duchene and Turris do well for their new clubs, but Joe Sakic did a fantastic job here. Took so much crap for the past 2 years, and if anybody proposed anything close to what he got on these forums, they would have been laughed out of here. Kudos to Super Joe.