Value of: Noah Juulsen or Josh Brook

[Habsrule]

Just keep both and develop them.

 

[Blueston]

Joel Edmunson for Brook and Ylonen.

 

[Just Linda]

Joel Edmunson for Brook and Ylonen.

If the trade was Edmundson for Brook one on one, Habs would say no.

 

[Legend123]

I wouldn't use the word elite and Juulsen together. Good, yes. Elite, heck no.

Defensively? For sure

 

[Just Linda]

Defensively? For sure

Not a single defensive measure has him in the top 10 percent. One step further, he's not in the top 10 percent on second pairing d in any measure. Good yes, elite no.

 

[Legend123]

Not a single defensive measure has him in the top 10 percent. One step further, he's not in the top 10 percent on second pairing d in any measure. Good yes, elite no.

What? Hes just a rookie. Give him time. Did u know through his first 9 games this season he hadn't given up a single five on five goal or something incredible like that?

 

[Legend123]

Joel Edmunson for Brook and Ylonen.

Lol gtfo

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Word out of Vancouver is that JB is sitting down with Edler and his agent to discuss waiving his NTC, but I would assume he has to be valued as a pure rental because I think part of the discussion is going to include a potential new contract with the Nucks on July 1st. That is pure speculation, but lets proceed with the understanding any deal for Edler is a rental. With that said - Would Juulsen be available in a TDL deal for Edler? Would Mtl be interested in Edler?

Edler to Mtl for Juulsen + Conditional pick?
Edler to Mtl for 1st + conditional pick?
Edler to Mtl for conditional 1st (becomes a 2nd if he does not resign) + prospect?

Why not just straight up ask Vancouver to bend over and pull them cheeks apart! My gawd those are awful

 

[Mersss]

Thanks
Still on the wary side.
Muscles, etc are one thing
Eyes can be lights out.

Bryan Berard was able to maintain an excellent posiiton in hockey after COMPLETELY losing sight in one eye...

And yet, we don't know what's causing Juulsen to be out of the line-up. Could be smething completely different, or maybe concussion symptoms... Give it a rest, i'd rather have him early retire as a Habs then trade him on the cheap and see him gain back his form somewhere else.

 

[Blueston]

Lol gtfo

Maybe add a 1st to one of those if you don’t wanna give up both since they have been anointed.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Juulsen hasn’t played in a month and there are rumours of nerve damage in his face. His career might be in question. Poor kid.

However; with all that in mind, no one is offering very much for him.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Bryan Berard was able to maintain an excellent posiiton in hockey after COMPLETELY losing sight in one eye...

And yet, we don't know what's causing Juulsen to be out of the line-up. Could be smething completely different, or maybe concussion symptoms... Give it a rest, i'd rather have him early retire as a Habs then trade him on the cheap and see him gain back his form somewhere else.

That’s actually not entirely true. Berard was a #1 overall pick and he really struggled on the defensive side of things after his injury. His peripheral vision was completely screwed. He had a couple decent seasons but was never able to fully reach his potential.

Hopefully Juulsen can get through this. That’s no way for a kid to lose his hockey dream.

 

[Legend123]

Juulsen hasn’t played in a month and there are rumours of nerve damage in his face. His career might be in question. Poor kid.

However; with all that in mind, no one is offering very much for him.

those arent rumors. Its just worst-case speculation. I made a post on Habs forum why its not as serious as this single dude thought. Basically, Juulsen returned after his double puck to the face injury playing a few games for the habs and the Rocket. He was then shut down for I presume precautionary reasons. But the fact he managed to play a few weeks after his injury, although too soon, is encouraging. His value isnt down. He'll be back.

 

[Legend123]

Maybe add a 1st to one of those if you don’t wanna give up both since they have been anointed.

no. Our first is also 'anointed' as you say

 

[Kcb12345]

Juulsen likely has very little value right now until he is 100% healthy again.

 

[Benstheman]

If the trade was Edmundson for Brook one on one, Habs would say no.

Edmundson is a beast. I do that on a heartbeat

 

[M Ace]

Kevin Lowe for Juulsen!!

 

[HuGo Sham]

jesus... Romanov's floor being a #2. pump the tire a bit... I love the kid, love his progression but calm down! i personnaly have Brook higher than Romanov, but Romanov does fill a bigger need. Both are keeper.

i'm calm. you calm? regardless they're both going to be good. the 2 projection is not mine

 

[xNogaitx]

Edmundson is a beast. I do that on a heartbeat

And this would be a bad trade.

Edmundson is St-Louis' equivalent of a Brett Kulak, slightly better.

You don't give away your top defensive prospect (whose outperforming Valimaki as mentioned prior) and your top winger prospect for a guy that isn't a top 4D.

Now if you can package Kulak with a 4th rd pick, then yeah maybe you do this. But you don't include any premium assets for a guy that will likely stick to your bottom pair.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Edmundson is a beast. I do that on a heartbeat

''beast''

Karl Alzner is a legend then

 

[Benstheman]

And this would be a bad trade.

Edmundson is St-Louis' equivalent of a Brett Kulak, slightly better.

You don't give away your top defensive prospect (whose outperforming Valimaki as mentioned prior) and your top winger prospect for a guy that isn't a top 4D.

Now if you can package Kulak with a 4th rd pick, then yeah maybe you do this. But you don't include any premium assets for a guy that will likely stick to your bottom pair.

 

[bernmeister]

Bryan Berard was able to maintain an excellent posiiton in hockey after COMPLETELY losing sight in one eye...

And yet, we don't know what's causing Juulsen to be out of the line-up. Could be smething completely different, or maybe concussion symptoms... Give it a rest, i'd rather have him early retire as a Habs then trade him on the cheap and see him gain back his form somewhere else.

not so high on BryBer post injury
your other reflexes are there but depth perception... tricky thing.

So Juul-meister on the shelf for now, then.

 

[Horse McHindu]

Erik Gudbranson for Josh Brook.

 

[TT1]

Edmunson is underrated but im not ready to move Brook. Brook and Fleury both look to be good building blocks.

 

[Mersss]

Erik Gudbranson for Josh Brook.

lol...