No one cares about Canucks in Vancouver...

[Zippgunn]

Didn't know Lhuntshi had a pub. Huh.

Sooke actually...

 

[Cupless44]

Honestly, can you name more than a handful of players over the 5 seasons Benning has been GM and say that you care about them/like them?

Just so much unlikeable trash.

That is a good point that has to be considered before some here label Vancouver a bad hockey market. Vancouver is still in the top half of NHL attendance figures despite going on 4 years no playoffs and 5 years of Jim Benning putting together a very unlikable roster. So many poor to mediocre unlikable veterans on this team.

Fans care about Pettersson, Boeser, Horvat. After that you could jettison the whole bunch of them and no one would really care. Most I would be happy to see them go.

 

[M2Beezy]

Honestly, can you name more than a handful of players over the 5 seasons Benning has been GM and say that you care about them/like them?

Just so much unlikeable trash.

Of course: Pettersson Boeser Horvat Edler Tanev Baertchi Hughes Gaudette Woo Lock Goldobin Huttster

 

[MadaCanuckle]

Of course: Pettersson Boeser Horvat Edler Tanev Baertchi Hughes Gaudette Woo Lock Goldobin Huttster

3 are not from this regime tenure, 3 didn't play a game in the NHL, and one is one of the most hated Canucks right now (because some people are preaching the gospel of Benning). So, you got 4. Try again.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Huh? North America includes Mexico and the US, last time I checked. Most US cities have lower average salaries than us. I think you meant to compare Vancouver to New York and SF?

No Vancouver is lower than most:

List of Median household income of cities in Canada - Wikipedia

Median household income in Vancouver is about $US 55,000.

That's below places like Phoenix, Denver, Charlotte, Austin, etc.

You might be compare housing cost which Vancouver is comparable to New York/ San Fran but income isn't even in the same league.

 

[Siludin]

Unknown man on social media says thing

 

[JAK]

You guys are all missing the real reason.

Rogers or Bell charges through the nose for sports channels for pubs.

They literally charge per seat. So perhaps the owner is only paying for Bell's TSN and not Rogers' for their channels.

 

[PG Canuck]

I’m a diehard fan and even I’ve struggled mightily the last four years. For the casual fan why go through this? No point for them to endure this crap.

 

[PG Canuck]

Vancouver is not a true sports-town/city. We're really not that passionate about our sports. The Giants haven't been doing well at the gate. The Lions haven't been doing well at the gate. The Canadians have been doing well at the gate, but this is a single A ballclub and you can go to the game for the price of a movie ticket. The White Caps seem to be doing pretty well relative to the rest of the league but the experience is night and day vs the experience you get going to a Sounders game.

But like Pastor quoted, the Canucks actually did really well with their season ticket renewals.

This is true and I’ve been saying this for awhile. I find it hilarious when people want the MLB or NBA here. This is absolutely not a sports town. We will NEVER be a Boston/Chicago/Detroit/New York.

We will never be a Toronto even. This city sucks if you’re a diehard for sports.

 

[rypper]

Honestly, can you name more than a handful of players over the 5 seasons Benning has been GM and say that you care about them/like them?

Just so much unlikeable trash.

This is a really great point. They also shipped out a number of my favorite players (or players with any kind of personality) early on in Benning's time here that definitely left a sour taste in my mouth.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Apathy.

With very little to care about on this roster, why would the casual fan be concerned with the Canucks?

Sure, VAN is still making money at the gate, but that is a small subset of the entire potential fanbase. They lost the crowd here a long time ago.

When people don’t believe in your product, they don’t rationalize high expenditures. Has nothing to do with being a sports town or not. If the product is worth it, and there is a willingness to pay, it can be 2011 again... but it is far, far from that right now.

 

[valkynax]

Apathy.

With very little to care about on this roster, why would the casual fan be concerned with the Canucks?

Sure, VAN is still making money at the gate, but that is a small subset of the entire potential fanbase. They lost the crowd here a long time ago.

When people don’t believe in your product, they don’t rationalize high expenditures. Has nothing to do with being a sports town or not. If the product is worth it, and there is a willingness to pay, it can be 2011 again... but it is far, far from that right now.

Agree with most of this.

People can glamour it up all they want, but the core of the situation is VERY simple: if the product is shit, no one will buy it. Period.

 

[F A N]

Apathy.

With very little to care about on this roster, why would the casual fan be concerned with the Canucks?

Sure, VAN is still making money at the gate, but that is a small subset of the entire potential fanbase. They lost the crowd here a long time ago.

When people don’t believe in your product, they don’t rationalize high expenditures. Has nothing to do with being a sports town or not. If the product is worth it, and there is a willingness to pay, it can be 2011 again... but it is far, far from that right now.

You're missing the point. Season ticket renewals or casual fans isn't an issue for the Leafs over the past decade and more and they have been bad for most of the decade and more. It's sort of like New Jersey. If you need to win the Cup to sell out the building it's a problem.

 

[timw33]

Apathy.

With very little to care about on this roster, why would the casual fan be concerned with the Canucks?

Sure, VAN is still making money at the gate, but that is a small subset of the entire potential fanbase. They lost the crowd here a long time ago.

When people don’t believe in your product, they don’t rationalize high expenditures. Has nothing to do with being a sports town or not. If the product is worth it, and there is a willingness to pay, it can be 2011 again... but it is far, far from that right now.

You replace incredible personalities (Bieksa, Luongo, Burrows) and a great mix of admirable stand up guys (Sedins, Hamhuis, Edler, Malholtra) with prickly/egotistical idiots (Miller, Prust, Gudbranson, Sutter) and irrelevant NHL trash players that is the worst NHL club over a 3 year period....and one wonders why no one cares about this team that's been built?

Pettersson/Boeser are the only two pieces that Benning has been responsible for that I care an ounce about. It's been 5 years.

 

[Hit the post]

You're missing the point. Season ticket renewals or casual fans isn't an issue for the Leafs over the past decade and more and they have been bad for most of the decade and more. It's sort of like New Jersey. If you need to win the Cup to sell out the building it's a problem.

Toronto though has a much bigger population to draw from. Suspect they might be able to even support two NHL teams (though I doubt two bad teams).

 

[Pip]

Then they don't have the right to call themselves Canucks fans when things get better.

A fan is for life, not just the good times.

You don’t get to decide who is a Canucks fan

 

[Nomobo]

Sooke actually...

Hey neighbor, East Sooke here.

 

[Nomobo]

3 are not from this regime tenure, 3 didn't play a game in the NHL, and one is one of the most hated Canucks right now (because some people are preaching the gospel of Benning). So, you got 4. Try again.

Who gives a **** what regime their from?

 

[EpochLink]

I've lived through:

Bure/Linden years (elementary)
Messier (junior high/start of high school)
Naslund/Bertuzzi (throughout high school)
Luongo/Sedins (post secondary/early to mid 20's)
The down years (mid to late 20's/early 30's)

Remember the love affair Calgary got on their 2004 run? Media/opposing fans praising the team
Remember the love affair Vancouver got on their 2011 run? Media/opposing fans hating the team

 

[Luck 6]

Haha I have a hard time finding people to come to games with me for free as a season ticket holder, when my regular asks are busy that is. Many people just don’t care when we aren’t good, but I mean, I still think we end up with 13k or so in the stadium each night.

 

[Hit the post]

I've lived through:

Bure/Linden years (elementary)
Messier (junior high/start of high school)
Naslund/Bertuzzi (throughout high school)
Luongo/Sedins (post secondary/early to mid 20's)
The down years (mid to late 20's/early 30's)

Remember the love affair Calgary got on their 2004 run? Media/opposing fans praising the team
Remember the love affair Vancouver got on their 2011 run? Media/opposing fans hating the team

Cook, Don - Canucks We're With You (vocal) b/w Canucks We're With You (instrumental) (picture sleeve)

 

[MadaCanuckle]

Who gives a **** what regime their from?

Some buttons were pushed, I guess.

 

[PM]

So where is the problem? Lots of immigrants from non-hockey countries?

Tickets too expensive for a below average product in a market where most people have very little disposable income.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Cook, Don - Canucks We're With You (vocal) b/w Canucks We're With You (instrumental) (picture sleeve)

Ha ha....sure brings back some 70's memories!
So hokey, you had to love it! But now it'll be stuck in my brain for the next week

 

[PG Canuck]

Then they don't have the right to call themselves Canucks fans when things get better.

A fan is for life, not just the good times.

You have under 5,000 posts here discussing the team, so by that metric you aren’t THAT big of a Canucks fan.

See how dumb it is to dictate who is a fan and who isn’t?