Proposal: NJD/COL

[Ruutu Tootoo]

Ryan Graves



2021 NYI Second Round Pick
Mikhail Maltsev

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[Ararana]

Graves probably has more value around the league than Avs fans want to admit. But I'd give him away to any team that was willing to eat his contract.

We haven't exactly been happy with him over the last two years.

 

[CraigsList]

I think Graves with Subban or Severson would be a good pairing.

 

[Ruutu Tootoo]

I think Graves with Subban or Severson would be a good pairing.

My hope is this trade were to come to fruition is that he’d be paired with Severson and then find another RD down the road, unless the draft pick is Clarke, to pair with Ty Smith.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Graves doesn't do enough for me
I'd rather just keep the lottery ticket Maltsev could go though, no attachment to him at all, he doesn't scream full time NHL player to me, he's an AHL guy that can fill in if needed

 

[DarthProbert]

Honestly if Graves went to NJ it might force Seattle to take an even bigger(not huge, but bigger) contract like a Compher. That cap space is worth a lot in addition to whatever Graves brings back.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Don’t think the devils do this Trade

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

I rather NJ keep the 2nd and Maltsev, and just re-sign Ryan Murray or Kulikov. Graves only has two years left on his contract and woudn't be in Devils long term plans. They are stacked at LHD at prospect level. The team needs depth at RHD, and might be interested in Timmons or Barron.

 

[ljb4]

Would Jersey be interested in moving Nolan Foote for Graves and a B prospect (Alex Beaucage / Drew Helleson)?

 

[Smitty426]

Would Jersey be interested in moving Nolan Foote for Graves and a B prospect (Alex Beaucage / Drew Helleson)?

Probably not

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I'd do it tbh. Recoup a 2nd round pick for a player we just don't need with our depth on the Left Side. Do it before ED and then Seattle takes Donskoi....

That'd be a nice 7M in cap freed up. Enough to go after a guy like Danault

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Hang onto the draft capital, extend Murray for a year, and roll with Murray/Smith/Siegenthaler down the left side. Bahl and Vukojevic can duke it out for first call-up.

Oh yeah, and Butcher’s still floating around.

There’s no need to pay up for Graves.

 

[CalvertsaBeast]

I'd do it tbh. Recoup a 2nd round pick for a player we just don't need with our depth on the Left Side. Do it before ED and then Seattle takes Donskoi....

That'd be a nice 7M in cap freed up. Enough to go after a guy like Danault

We need Oleksiak from Dallas.

 

[Forge]

I just don't see why for the devils

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Graves probably has more value around the league than Avs fans want to admit. But I'd give him away to any team that was willing to eat his contract.

We haven't exactly been happy with him over the last two years.

Can you expand on this or summarize the pros/cons/XO's for him.
Is he okay with top 4 minutes or ideally a good 3rd pair guy?

 

[Mersss]

Overpaid bottom pairing dman aren't worth a 2nd rd pick.

The pick is actually heading the wrong way here

 

[Ararana]

Can you expand on this or summarize the pros/cons/XO's for him.
Is he okay with top 4 minutes or ideally a good 3rd pair guy?

He’s a decent third pairing guy who can PK pretty well. He has a pretty good slap shot though he’s an idiot on when to use it.

He’s slow as shit and offense dies on his stick 98% of the time. He’s paid too much for too long for the caliber of defenseman he is. I can only assume Sakic signed him before he discovered Devon Toews was going to fall into his lap.

If he was making under 2 million for one less year I think he’d be worth the contract. Right now he’s just a guy in Bowen Byram way taking up too much of the Avs’ cap space.

 

[pockets]

Overpaid bottom pairing dman aren't worth a 2nd rd pick.

The pick is actually heading the wrong way here

So Graves and a 2nd for a depth winger?

I’m not a fan of Graves by any means but that sounds like an awful deal for the Avs.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

He’s a decent third pairing guy who can PK pretty well. He has a pretty good slap shot though he’s an idiot on when to use it.

He’s slow as shit and offense dies on his stick 98% of the time. He’s paid too much for too long for the caliber of defenseman he is. I can only assume Sakic signed him before he discovered Devon Toews was going to fall into his lap.

If he was making under 2 million for one less year I think he’d be worth the contract. Right now he’s just a guy in Bowen Byram way taking up too much of the Avs’ cap space.

Devils don’t need any more bottom pair defenseman. Especially after trading for Siegenthaler. It’s a definite NO to Graves.

 

[Eggtimer]

My hope is this trade were to come to fruition is that he’d be paired with Severson and then find another RD down the road, unless the draft pick is Clarke, to pair with Ty Smith.

Hamilton is going to be our new RHD .
Fitz is going to have an epic off-season and add Hamilton along with a good 1b veteran goalie plus a too 6 forward .
I am going to keep saying this to myself and posting it until I will it into existence . While I’m at talking about pipe dreams I may as well make another very unlikely prediction . Devils will add Tarasenko or Gaudreau or Monahan via trade. Or … C Keller or Garland or Tkachuk or Tatar or Drouin or Meier or E Kane or Kuz or Reinhart or Saad or Laine or S Jones or …. did I miss anyone or does that cover everyone that has about a 0.75% chance of happening
Edit , forgot RNH

 

[Freudian]

As an Avs fan, I'd say Graves for a 3rd round pick is enough. He's ok, but is playing a game that's bigger than his skill set allows.

I think Avs are fine with Seattle claiming Graves, so no real need to trade him.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Hamilton is going to be our new RHD .
Fitz is going to have an epic off-season and add Hamilton along with a good 1b veteran goalie plus a too 6 forward .
I am going to keep saying this to myself and posting it until I will it into existence . While I’m at talking about pipe dreams I may as well make another very unlikely prediction . Devils will add Tarasenko or Gaudreau or Monahan via trade. Or … C Keller or Garland or Tkachuk or Tatar or Drouin or Meier or E Kane or Kuz or Reinhart or Saad or Laine or S Jones or …. did I miss anyone or does that cover everyone that has about a 0.75% chance of happening
Edit , forgot RNH

If we stick to the rebuild that's us in two years.....Look at Vegas they traded Suzuki to Montreal for Paciorety that came back to bite them stick to the rebuild see what we have . Sign free agents I'm fine with trading futures for vets no way

 

[Smitty426]

Hamilton is going to be our new RHD .
Fitz is going to have an epic off-season and add Hamilton along with a good 1b veteran goalie plus a too 6 forward .
I am going to keep saying this to myself and posting it until I will it into existence . While I’m at talking about pipe dreams I may as well make another very unlikely prediction . Devils will add Tarasenko or Gaudreau or Monahan via trade. Or … C Keller or Garland or Tkachuk or Tatar or Drouin or Meier or E Kane or Kuz or Reinhart or Saad or Laine or S Jones or …. did I miss anyone or does that cover everyone that has about a 0.75% chance of happening
Edit , forgot RNH

Jamie Oleksiak in FA but otherwise you nailed it, nice work!

 

[Forge]

Ryan Graves



2021 NYI Second Round Pick
Mikhail Maltsev

Well done, sir

 

[beardawg]

Who's your insider, OP?