Confirmed with Link: Nino Niederreiter (MIN) Traded for Victor Rask (CAR)

[DeagleJenkins]

maybe he actually planned for the future and compared their stats and figured a LW for a C was not a bad deal.

 

[Bazeek]

maybe he actually planned for the future and compared their stats and figured a LW for a C was not a bad deal.

Positional need can only justify so much.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Positional need can only justify so much.

oh i know. it was the only thing i can think of as we are weak down the middle and were strong in the LW slot.

 

[NHL1674]

Nino is happy with the move.....literally coasting to the ECF.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Can the Wild buyout Rask this July? Would it be better to cut our losses now to free up the roster for JEE, Kunin, and Sturm (and save $4 million for Leopold)?

Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( MIN)
2019-20	$4,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,666,667	$1,333,333
2020-21	$4,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,666,667	$1,333,333
2021-22	$4,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,666,667	$1,333,333
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2023-24	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2024-25	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
TOTAL	$12,000,000	$12,000,000	$0	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$4,000,000	$7,999,998

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[P10p]

Can the Wild buyout Rask this July? Would it be better to cut our losses now to free up the roster for JEE, Kunin, and Sturm (and save $4 million for Leopold)?

Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( MIN)
2019-20	$4,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,666,667	$1,333,333
2020-21	$4,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,666,667	$1,333,333
2021-22	$4,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,666,667	$1,333,333
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2023-24	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2024-25	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
TOTAL	$12,000,000	$12,000,000	$0	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$4,000,000	$7,999,998

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

No you have to give Rask a chance to somehow salvage this trade. At least see what we have after a full offseason here and give him some games.

 

[DANOZ28]

well i cant see fenton admitting he failed on this trade yet so im sure rask is the #4C this season. assuming koivu plays i'd rather see greenway / kunin / donato 3rd line with JEE playing #1C in iowa.

 

[a79krgm]

Yup. What was concerning about Nino over the past 1 1/2 years, though, was his inability to handle the puck, and making weird decisions in the D zone. In general, he seemed lost as a hockey player, and not just for a few weeks. In other words, besides not scoring, he was also not doing other thing well.
He is the very definition of a player that needed a new start. I have no problem with trading him, just with the return.

Agree. Nino was a player that needed to get the boot if you ever saw one. A big man constantly losing battles was embarrassing. It was a good opportunity for at GM to shake the team up a little.

As far as getting Rask in return? … every team has at least one bad contract. If his teammates (namely Staal, Zucker, Parise) have good seasons this year, the trade can be forgiven.

 

[DANOZ28]

trading a 15-25G scorer for an injured 4 mill $ C hoping he recovers seems like insanity to me. i think Carolina would have bought out his contract. i cant forgive stupidity nomatter how much time passes. would i have considered trading nino & coyle? yes however the return would have been much better or i'd have kept them till trading made sense.

 

[P10p]

trading a 15-25G scorer for an injured 4 mill $ C hoping he recovers seems like insanity to me. i think Carolina would have bought out his contract. i cant forgive stupidity nomatter how much time passes. would i have considered trading nino & coyle? yes however the return would have been much better or i'd have kept them till trading made sense.

The only hope is Fenton sees something in Rask that we don't. Time will tell...

 

[DeagleJenkins]

trading a 15-25G scorer for an injured 4 mill $ C hoping he recovers seems like insanity to me. i think Carolina would have bought out his contract. i cant forgive stupidity nomatter how much time passes. would i have considered trading nino & coyle? yes however the return would have been much better or i'd have kept them till trading made sense.

and if both nino and coyle continued to decline and we end up buying them out or letting them walk. is that a better scenario than trading and hoping a change of scenery helps a struggling player?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

We were never going to buyout Nino.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

We were never going to buyout Nino.

I guess the or letting them walk part wasn't in that sentence?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I guess the or letting them walk part wasn't in that sentence?

He had 3.5 years left on his deal. I wasn't too worried about that after year 1.5

 

[DeagleJenkins]

He had 3.5 years left on his deal. I wasn't too worried about that after year 1.5

what does the length of his contract have to do with what I said? in 3.5 years he couldn't of sucked horribly and let walk or bought out early if he was extremely horrible and we needed out of his deal?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

what does the length of his contract have to do with what I said? in 3.5 years he couldn't of sucked horribly and let walk or bought out early if he was extremely horrible and we needed out of his deal?

If he sucked horribly, then I wouldn't really care about him walking.

I'm saying that I would've placed the likelihood of Nino sucking so bad that he'd need to be bought out as extremely low. It was much, much, much more likely that he would've been a useful player here for the duration.

The Nino trade is defensible in that we traded from a position of strength (LW) for a position of weakness (C). The trouble we ran into was that the player we traded for was the wrong player. Whatever. Sucks, but we move on.