Friedman: Nikita Zaitsev has Requested a Trade from Toronto Pt. 2

[Legion34]

Well sure, but why would Dubas add a big sweetener or take a big loss on the trade?

That’s not what was said at all on the 4 minute clip on the front page. is adding his/her own spin to things.

He says multiple teams have inquired about Z. He says that the word on the street is Holland will move a D and that he wanted Z when he came over.

Andi says she thinks the leafs need a D back who can play. Dreger says it might be a bigger deal with a sweetener added to Z to get a defenseman back.

The poster is editorializing

 

[ChaoticOrange]

4.5 million in cap for a top 4rd is not that expensive dude. It’ll be cheap in a couple years.

Zaitsev is 61st among defencemen in terms of cap hit as of today. He's not being paid like some run of the mill #4, he's being paid like he's a borderline top pairing guy. Even if a team did think he was a #4 defenceman and liked the looks of him long term, that's a steep premium to be paying.

 

[Liferleafer]

Adding a 6th isn't exactly being bent over

Well no, but didn't you mention adds like Johnsson?

 

[Liferleafer]

That’s not what was said at all on the 4 minute clip on the front page. is adding his/her own spin to things.

He says multiple teams have inquired about Z. He says that the word on the street is Holland will move a D and that he wanted Z when he came over.

Andi says she thinks the leafs need a D back who can play. Dreger says it might be a bigger deal with a sweetener added to Z to get a defenseman back.

The poster is editorializing

Ah...makes more sense then.

 

[Legion34]

Nothing specific, no. Just mentioned that teams "had concerns" about Zaitsev's play last year and wanted a sweetener with him. Whether that's to take him outright with no cap going back, or what that might be, who knows.

That’s not what was said on the 4 minute clip on TSN.

Post the clip and timestamp so we can lol here it please?

Rules are rules

 

[IslandersFan17]

how does it? He's a UFA next summer

Because if the Sharks resigned him they would have to protect him in the expansion draft. In turn, moving him and acquiring assets instead of possibly losing him for free. It's not hard lol

 

[PemIceKing]

Because otherwise it will be very hard to get rid off him?
And it is first and foremost in the interest of the Leafs to clear that ugly contract IMO...

Not at the expense of losing a RHD and not being able to replace him.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Well no, but didn't you mention adds like Johnsson?

My point was that the sweetener could be ANYTHING. It's assumed that it would be something like Johnsson or Brown but it could also be a late pick or a struggling prospect

 

[IslesNorway]

The problem is the contract more than the player. Had Zaitsev been UFA in a year they'd have no problems dealing him, but 5 years and a modified NTC is infinitely harder to move, not to mention if his play is deteriorating.

 

[Jeypic]

Zaitsev is 61st among defencemen in terms of cap hit as of today. He's not being paid like some run of the mill #4, he's being paid like he's a borderline top pairing guy. Even if a team did think he was a #4 defenceman and liked the looks of him long term, that's a steep premium to be paying.

Leafs have been using him as a borderline top pairing guy.

I would not trade zaitsev for Braun straight up. We need the cap space, sure. But we need RD as well, and they all cost.

Plus Zaitsev is the better player.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

FTR, I am pretty sure the Zaitsev reference by Dreger was in regards to netting another defenseman... As in, if we wanted to get the type of defenseman we want in return, we would have to add Brown or Kapanen.

Nobody from TSN is suggesting we have to dump Zaitsev. They said at worst it would be a soft return, and based on what Braun just received in a trade, even that would be underselling what Zaitsev is worth right now.

 

[JoemAvs]

Are people forgetting that Zaitsev is our only RHD at the moment? I mean we'd need to replace him...and add 2 more. So while i hate the term, 4.5 isn't horrible...

Well its horrible IMO. And are you forgetting that the thread title says "Zaitsev has requested a trade"..
So that certainly won't help. Don't think he will just happily return to Toronto in autumn (not that he has a choice but still).
Toronto will have to go for RHDs regardless. Zaitsev or no Zaitsev does not even make that much of a difference in that regard. Dubas will move some of the surplus he has on forward to adress his backend. Getting rid of Zaitsev will only make it easier because it gives him flexibility with the cap.
I also fully expect Hainsey to be back with Toronto personally.

 

[Jeypic]

The problem is the contract more than the player. Had Zaitsev been UFA in a year they'd have no problems dealing him, but 5 years and a modified NTC is infinitely harder to move, not to mention if his play is deteriorating.

His play is not deteriorating. He’s been playing his best hockey since muzzin came over.

If Zaitsev were a UFA some team would sign him for 4.5 mill for 5 years easily.

 

[justafan22]

Because if the Sharks resigned him they would have to protect him in the expansion draft. In turn, moving him and acquiring assets instead of possibly losing him for free. It's not hard lol

I don't think they were resigning him..

 

[Legion34]

Ah...makes more sense then.

There could be another clip that I’m not aware of.

Ask the poster to post the quote or radio hit. The one on the front page is very different than what @ChaoticOrange is spinning it to be

 

[SeaOfBlue]

There could be another clip that I’m not aware of.

Ask the poster to post the quote or radio hit. The one on the front page is very different than what @ChaoticOrange is spinning it to be

That is the only clip I've heard from Dreger. It was Zaitsev + sweetner to get a defenseman who is likely of better quality, which makes sense.

I haven't heard anyone say that we need to add to get rid of his salary. At the very beginning it was 'soft deal' from TSN but legit return from pretty much everyone else, including SN.

 

[Legion34]

That is the only clip I've heard from Dreger. It was Zaitsev + sweetner to get a defenseman who is likely of better quality, which makes sense.

I haven't heard anyone say that we need to add to get rid of his salary. At the very beginning it was 'soft deal' from TSN but legit return from pretty much everyone else, including SN.

Ask chaotic orange produce the quote... I would like to hear it if there is something else.......

He won’t respond to me as he incorrectly refused to believe that CJ had talked about Larson and demanded that I timestamp the video after the fact so I don’t think he will respond to me.

But I legit would like to hear it

 

[Legion34]

The problem is the contract more than the player. Had Zaitsev been UFA in a year they'd have no problems dealing him, but 5 years and a modified NTC is infinitely harder to move, not to mention if his play is deteriorating.

His best games of his career have been the stretch drive and playoffs

 

[paulhiggins]

Here's a link to Time on Ice https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/toron...sort=8&time=2&pos=0&team=0&qual=0&sortOrder=0
In the playoffs his TOI exceeded both Gardiner and Dermott and they took the Bruins to 7 games.

 

[Liferleafer]

Here's a link to Time on Ice https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs-team-stats?season=2018&category=ICE TIME&group=1&sort=8&time=2&pos=0&team=0&qual=0&sortOrder=0
In the playoffs his TOI exceeded both Gardiner and Dermott and they took the Bruins to 7 games.

Yup, this is one of those trades in which all of HF is going to be happy to point out how Toronto traded a solid Dman in about a year or so.