Friedman: Nikita Zaitsev has Requested a Trade from Toronto Pt. 2

[Legion34]

Dreger saying on TSN1050 this morning that teams are concerned about Zaitsev’s play last season and want a sweetener to take him.

You need to provide a time stamped clip if you want to make these claims.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So did that Philly trade just set the bar for the potential return on Zaitsev? How far off of Brauns value is he?

Braun didn't ask to be moved and only has a year left rather than five.

I'd be sincerely surprised if Zaitsev returned anything close to that... Dreger saying this morning that teams want sweeteners to take Zaitsev.

 

[mashedpotato]

How can they be forced? The player asked for a trade, Dubas will try to honor that....but not at a big loss for the team. Zaitsev signed a contract...so he can't force anything, if he really wants out, he can walk away from his contract.

I think you might be taking things a little too literally. Even if they put a loaded gun to Dubas' head, he's technically not forced to do anything.

The point is, The Leafs are in a position where trading him is in everyone's interest; probable that he's not a Leaf next year.

 

[Liferleafer]

I think you might be taking things a little too literally. Even if they put a loaded gun to Dubas' head, he's technically not forced to do anything.

The point is, The Leafs are in a position where trading him is in everyone's interest; probable that he's not a Leaf next year.

Well sure, but why would Dubas add a big sweetener or take a big loss on the trade?

 

[He Is Knocking]

I'd be sincerely surprised if Zaitsev returned anything close to that... Dreger saying this morning that teams want sweeteners to take Zaitsev.

That is no secret to anyone that isn't in Leafs Nation glad Dreger finally admitted it.

 

[Liferleafer]

Braun didn't ask to be moved and only has a year left rather than five.

I'd be sincerely surprised if Zaitsev returned anything close to that... Dreger saying this morning that teams want sweeteners to take Zaitsev.

So he stays....life goes on.

 

[mashedpotato]

Well sure, but why would Dubas add a big sweetener or take a big loss on the trade?

Big is relative - he might not value a 2nd round as much as you / I do.

 

[JoemAvs]

Well sure, but why would Dubas add a big sweetener or take a big loss on the trade?

Because otherwise it will be very hard to get rid off him?
And it is first and foremost in the interest of the Leafs to clear that ugly contract IMO...

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

So he stays....life goes on.

We don't even know what the sweetener could be. It could be Johnsson, Brown, a late pick etc

 

[93gilmour93]

Braun didn't ask to be moved and only has a year left rather than five.

I'd be sincerely surprised if Zaitsev returned anything close to that... Dreger saying this morning that teams want sweeteners to take Zaitsev.

Did he say what the sweetener would be? Sweetener seems kind of vague. Are we talking like a 3rd Rd pick

 

[ChaoticOrange]

That is no secret to anyone that isn't in Leafs Nation glad Dreger finally admitted it.

Worst kept secret in hockey right now. It's really, really hard to get a team to agree to take on 4.5 million in cap long term especially when you don't want to take any back. Most teams don't know what they'll look like two years from now outside of a handful of guys, never mind five.

Hell LA allegedly didn't want to take Marleau without sending cap back and that's just one year.

 

[Jeypic]

That is no secret to anyone that isn't in Leafs Nation glad Dreger finally admitted it.

Dreger has no clue what he’s talking about. Zaitsev’s better then Braun... who was also a cap dump.

 

[Liferleafer]

Because otherwise it will be very hard to get rid off him?
And it is first and foremost in the interest of the Leafs to clear that ugly contract IMO...

Are people forgetting that Zaitsev is our only RHD at the moment? I mean we'd need to replace him...and add 2 more. So while i hate the term, 4.5 isn't horrible...

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Did he say what the sweetener would be? Sweetener seems kind of vague. Are we talking like a 3rd Rd pick

Nothing specific, no. Just mentioned that teams "had concerns" about Zaitsev's play last year and wanted a sweetener with him. Whether that's to take him outright with no cap going back, or what that might be, who knows.

 

[Liferleafer]

We don't even know what the sweetener could be. It could be Johnsson, Brown, a late pick etc

But why do that unless something decent comes back?

 

[Jeypic]

Worst kept secret in hockey right now. It's really, really hard to get a team to agree to take on 4.5 million in cap long term especially when you don't want to take any back. Most teams don't know what they'll look like two years from now outside of a handful of guys, never mind five.

Hell LA allegedly didn't want to take Marleau without sending cap back and that's just one year.

4.5 million in cap for a top 4rd is not that expensive dude. It’ll be cheap in a couple years.

 

[justafan22]

How can they be forced? The player asked for a trade, Dubas will try to honor that....but not at a big loss for the team. Zaitsev signed a contract...so he can't force anything, if he really wants out, he can walk away from his contract.

Zaitsev only gives up his money if he goes back to the KHL, where his contract comes off the Leafs books.

He isn't getting the same money back home

 

[odishabs]

Dreger has no clue what he’s talking about. Zaitsev’s better then Braun... who was also a cap dump.

No disrespect bro. Braun is and always has been better than Zaitsev since he came over from Russia. Better contract to boot. San Jose fans straight up tell you Braun is a good player but they're happ to have acquired the pick to clear room. Zaitsev has potential but he has much to prove.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

But why do that unless something decent comes back?

Because he requested a trade and they've said they'd like to honor that request

 

[Liferleafer]

Zaitsev only gives up his money if he goes back to the KHL, where his contract comes off the Leafs books.

He isn't getting the same money back home

Well ya, that's my point...he can't force Dubas to lose a trade just to move him.

 

[IslandersFan17]

The Braun deal, also has expansion draft implications. Shouldnt be used a measuring stick for a really lackluster Zaitsev

 

[Jeypic]

No disrespect bro. Braun is and always has been better than Zaitsev since he came over from Russia. Better contract to boot. San Jose fans straight up tell you Braun is a good player but they're happ to have acquired the pick to clear room. Zaitsev has potential but he has much to prove.

False

 

[Liferleafer]

Because he requested a trade and they've said they'd like to honor that request

You don't bend clean over to honor that though....

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

You don't bend clean over to honor that though....

Adding a 6th isn't exactly being bent over

 

[justafan22]

The Braun deal, also has expansion draft implications. Shouldnt be used a measuring stick for a really lackluster Zaitsev

how does it? He's a UFA next summer