No argument here. The way I see it, Niemi lost us the 2 points and a comedy of errors and poor decisions from bench to goalie lost us the loser point.
Post-Game Talk: Niemi with the worst performance I've ever seen by a Habs goalie in 6-5 loss to Tampa
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No argument here. The way I see it, Niemi lost us the 2 points and a comedy of errors and poor decisions from bench to goalie lost us the loser point.
Vets and players under contract have always got that treatment. Niemi situation nothing new. Out side the crease players can string it out for much longer than Niemi will. Tomas Plekanec poster boy for over paid vet who should be a healthy scratch yet plays every night. DD went something like 50 games without a goal and was STILL on the powerplay.
Like those two floaters, Niemi will have the odd lucky game. Although back goalies are in a much shorter leash.
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when you have that many ways to lose.........you deserve to.
Price in AHL 2.69 gaa after 10 games...then jumped to NHL same year
went 24 win 12 loses
2.56 gaa/921sv% in NHL
McNiven..10 AHL games ..2.59 gaa
Now in NHL..Throw him in and lets go for it ...IT'S SHOW TIME
Never forget the words of Don Cherry ...
Meet the Canadiens prospect Don Cherry says is as good as Carey Price
(fast forward the video to the 3 minutes and 53 second mark)
“I had Carey Price in the [annual CHL] prospect game and I thought he was terrific. This guy [McNiven] is as good as Price right now.”
went 24 win 12 loses
2.56 gaa/921sv% in NHL
McNiven..10 AHL games ..2.59 gaa
Now in NHL..Throw him in and lets go for it ...IT'S SHOW TIME
Never forget the words of Don Cherry ...
Meet the Canadiens prospect Don Cherry says is as good as Carey Price
(fast forward the video to the 3 minutes and 53 second mark)
“I had Carey Price in the [annual CHL] prospect game and I thought he was terrific. This guy [McNiven] is as good as Price right now.”
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I was talking more in general when up by one. I would have the same questionning if TB hadn't score. As for Niemi I would have thought about pulling him after the two shots from outside the blue line where he had trouble stopping it. It was clear his confidence/focus was off. I understand that Julien might need Niemi further down the line (esp. if Price is injured more seriously) and that he didn't want to put an ECHer in the net for him.
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Makes sense to me. Always cool to see our young prospects and we might as well use him now.
Nimie wasn't good, and he hasn't been good this year but he has gotten us points (and cost us), but its not fair to ask your BACK UP to play back 2 back games with game number 2 against the best team in the league. Most starters don't play b2b's (all though its becoming more popular) so asking your back up??
Going into the game I think everyone expected Nieme to let in 4+, it just hurts that we had the lead 3 times and had a point in the bag before the final few minutes.
Question is is it worth it to give up some assets and maybe create some waiver issues to get a back up that might only be slightly better than Niemi if at all? Nieme is not playing like last year the clock struck midnight but I think that is probably the teams least worries and using any assets would be better served on other areas. Most likely Price plays what 30 out of the next 41 games? maybe even 35 ? Of course if he isn't injured for the rest of the season.
Going into the game I think everyone expected Nieme to let in 4+, it just hurts that we had the lead 3 times and had a point in the bag before the final few minutes.
Question is is it worth it to give up some assets and maybe create some waiver issues to get a back up that might only be slightly better than Niemi if at all? Nieme is not playing like last year the clock struck midnight but I think that is probably the teams least worries and using any assets would be better served on other areas. Most likely Price plays what 30 out of the next 41 games? maybe even 35 ? Of course if he isn't injured for the rest of the season.
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There was maybe one goal you could say Vasi had no chance on. He was awful. It was a first save kind of game.
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Such a sad ending for us. But we played amazing and hopefully they can use the loss as motivation.
KK is an elite talent. He sees the ice at that next level only few do. Can't wait to see his career unfold.
Shaw has been so much better this year, starting to really like him.
Loving that oehkonLe is getting points too.
KK is an elite talent. He sees the ice at that next level only few do. Can't wait to see his career unfold.
Shaw has been so much better this year, starting to really like him.
Loving that oehkonLe is getting points too.
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There isn't one game that Auntie has played this year, where he gave up less than 3 goals:
I wonder where Auntie stacks up relative to other back-up goalies with a similar number of games played this season.
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Drouin ?
More awful than good last night, but that applies to the first line and not just Drouin.
Charlie Lindgren's their future backup. Just plain bad luck he's also injured, otherwise the chances were almost 100% he would've started one of the two Florida games.
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didn't want to start anything with Drouin, just that I saw Segrachev had an assist and since he did get benched one game two weeks ago I was curious if he had played better. He's on pace for 28 pts so a noticeable drop from last year's big season but if he doesn't improve his defensive game then he'll struggle to be a top 4. As a big supporter of Timmins I try to follow all his draft picks as i've always said I thought he would at least look a little better if the Habs had a better development system in place starting with hiring a head coach that actually had been a head coach before being hired. Now that's been fixed this summer, if we can only stop rushing these kids to the NHL hopefully our development will show better results as I'm very impressed not only with Bouchard but also Daniel Jacob as I assume he's the one coaching the D as they play so much more structured defensive hockey.
There isn't one game that Auntie has played this year, where he gave up less than 3 goals:
I wonder where Auntie stacks up relative to other back-up goalies with a similar number of games played this season.
of all goalies to play 10 or more games this season ,his 4.22 GAA avg is the worst in NHL
few examples...all these goalies have played exactly 10 games...
Montreal back up Niemi 4.22 gaa
Winnipeg back up Laurent Brossoit 2.11 Gaa
Anaheim back up Ryan Miller 2.71 gaa
Wild back up Alex Stalock 2.60 gaa
62 goalies have played 10 or more games this season...
Neimi 4.22 GAA is 62nd place....
Only 1 other goalie out of those 62 that have played 10 or more games has a GAA above 4.oo ..
Calvin Pickard 4.01 GAA
Neimi 4.22 GAA is 62nd place....
Only 1 other goalie out of those 62 that have played 10 or more games has a GAA above 4.oo ..
Calvin Pickard 4.01 GAA
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I'm going to the game in Dallas tomorrow. Any idea who is starting in net? My son is crushed that Price is not playing...
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At this point you give it to McNiven....why?
Because Price will be injured again next year
and again the next year....at some point you gotta look the other way...
TIME TO PLAN AHEAD....develop McNiven and consider eating salary to move ..or the buyout when the new CBA gets done.....
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