Denver Post: Nichushkin involved in incident that prompted police/medical response

[ABasin]

Not sure if people are very naive or just defend the guy because he plays for our team.



How often do they bail on their team during the playoffs?

My guess is the team kicked him out, rather than him bailing on his own accord.

I suspect the recent theory posted in here is the correct one: He tied one on, decided to grab a hooker for the occasion, and was so wasted he missed practice. Hence, they went looking for him in his hotel room, then later decided to send him home.

 

[LOFIN]

Not sure if people are very naive or just defend the guy because he plays for our team.

If you don't like the dude because you have coined up a scenario that could've happened, be my guest. But maybe don't call out people for crimes they have not been charged with, let alone convicted. Defamation is a thing you know.

 

[henchman21]

My goodness some weird leaps here. You can rape a prostitute, paying does not mean you're entitled to bypass consent in all areas. It is possible to rape and have no charges brought (it is honestly very common). There is nothing signaling Nuke raped this woman, going to that level is a leap. There is strong evidence the Avs went to lengths to keep Nuke out of the legal system.

It is also simply very weird the physician is not back. There could certainly be coincidence here, but the sniff test isn't great. Especially considering how this is normally handled across the league and really all sports. This shouldn't be shocking to anyone.

 

[Vaslof]

If you don't like the dude because you have coined up a scenario that could've happened, be my guest. But maybe don't call out people for crimes they have not been charged with, let alone convicted. Defamation is a thing you know.

Yeah good luck with that court case bud I'm sure that'll work out well for ya.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Feeling like we are about to receive a warning if we don't change the subject some here. Regardless, I imagine one of the mods will be here soon.

 

[the_fan]

You did this to yourself by implying that it's not possible to rape a prostitute (and no, I'm not accusing Nichushkin of rape).

If a prostitute is forced into prostitution (such as by a pimp beating her, trafficking her, taking her passport) then she's not really consenting to sex.

If a prostitute accepts money for sex that still isn't a license for the person paying her to do anything they want without limitations. If she accepts money for vaginal intercourse and you put it in her ass without asking, that's rape. If she decides she doesn't want to be a prostitute anymore halfway through and tries to leave and you don't let her, that's rape. If you pay her for one session and then try to screw her again without paying, that's rape. If you tell her you're going to use a condom and then take it off when she's not looking and screw her anyway, that's rape. If she's too intoxicated, that's rape.

Basically, your posts show a lack of understanding of consent. Consent is an ongoing thing. You don't just convince someone to say yes to sex once and then go nuts on them indefinitely.

I didn’t do anything to myself other than making a mistake posting about a topic which is totally irrelevant here. I was just replying to a post that suggested Nuke raped a hooker which was a stupid post to begin with and I guess I’m also stupid for replying to it

Should just stop with this nonsense all together. I’m not an expert on prostitution and rape, I don’t know the inner workings of prostitutes and the world they live in. All I know is they’re aware of the consequences and danger of the life they choose by being a prostitute. I’m not saying it’s ok for them to get raped. I should emphasize that since some people on here are short minded

 

[AvsGuy]

Yeah good luck with that court case bud I'm sure that'll work out well for ya.

Do you need like, a hobby, or just maybe a professionally qualified human being to talk to?

 

[sethro109]

Can we just lock this thread up? It's just causing rampant speculation and strife. It's already gone off the rails more than once and should probably be put to rest now that Nuke is back we the team and has address the media.

 

[wayninja]

LOCK IT UP, LOCK IT UP!

 

[Foppa2118]

I told you @UncleRisto my direction was better. This is your fault. And Kurt Sauer. Or are you........?

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

Valeri Nichushkin is not a rapist. He may be a kidnapper, an arsonist, a forger, and a rapist, but he is NOT a porn star.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

I feel like now is a good time to lock this up, we had Nuke's official statement, and that of some of the team. We have as much info as we are getting, everything else is speculation, some of which is funny, some of which is alarming. End this shit.

 

[BrickNHL]

I would have locked this thread up by now but unfortuantely they refuse to make me a mod

 

[Foppa2118]

I didn’t do anything to myself other than making a mistake posting about a topic which is totally irrelevant here. I was just replying to a post that suggested Nuke raped a hooker which was a stupid post to begin with and I guess I’m also stupid for replying to it

Should just stop with this nonsense all together. I’m not an expert on prostitution and rape, I don’t know the inner workings of prostitutes and the world they live in. All I know is they’re aware of the consequences and danger of the life they choose by being a prostitute. I’m not saying it’s ok for them to get raped. I should emphasize that since some people on here are short minded

You made a mistake, it happens. And you owned up to it, which is more than what many would do.

I will point out though that many prostitutes don't really have a choice. They're often forced into it and threatened to stay.

I'll also point out that while it makes sense that she may have been a prostitute, we're also making an assumption on that. She could have just been someone local selling him something to get by. You would think Val could afford a more high class escort, but maybe that's not a requirement.

Either way this is an unfortunate situation all around, but the league knows what happened and isn't concerned, so the worst case scenarios that people have come up with are extremely unlikely. After Chicago and Columbus it's hard to believe they'd help sweep this under the rug.

Val seems to be doing better. Hopefully the woman is too, regardless of her involvement.

 

[the_fan]

You made a mistake, it happens. And you owned up to it, which is more than what many would do.

I will point out though that many prostitutes don't really have a choice. They're often forced into it and threatened to stay.

I'll also point out that while it makes sense that she may have been a prostitute, we're also making an assumption on that. She could have just been someone local selling him something to get by. You would think Val could afford a more high class escort, but maybe that's not a requirement.

Either way this is an unfortunate situation all around, but the league knows what happened and isn't concerned, so the worst case scenarios that people have come up with are extremely unlikely. After Chicago and Columbus it's hard to believe they'd help sweep this under the rug.

Val seems to be doing better. Hopefully the woman is too, regardless of her involvement.

I made a mistake replying to that post yes, but I didn’t make a mistake commenting on prostitution and rape. I don’t know what’s right or wrong there since prostitution itself isn’t right neither is rape

 

[Foppa2118]

I made a mistake replying to that post yes, but I didn’t make a mistake commenting on prostitution and rape. I don’t know what’s right or wrong there since prostitution itself isn’t right neither is rape

The original post was pretty off I agree. But it's important to point out that many sex workers are forced into prostitution, it isn't by choice, and actual rape isn't that uncommon for them either, because the worst of this world often prey on them and do terrible things to them.

I'm pretty confident none of this has to do with this situation, though the woman's involvement is still unanswered. Hopefully she's doing ok, but it did seem like she could use some help one way or another.

 

[Vaslof]

I made a mistake replying to that post yes, but I didn’t make a mistake commenting on prostitution and rape. I don’t know what’s right or wrong there since prostitution itself isn’t right neither is rape

Prostitutes are human beings. If they're so inebriated that they need to go to the hospital, they are not in a state where they can consent to sex.

 

[the_fan]

The original post was pretty off I agree. But it's important to point out that many sex workers are forced into prostitution, it isn't by choice, and actual rape isn't that uncommon for them either, because the worst of this world often prey on them and do terrible things to them.

I'm pretty confident none of this has to do with this situation, though the woman's involvement is still unanswered. Hopefully she's doing ok, but it did seem like she could use some help one way or another.

Why become a sex worker or prostitute? Do this women have no other choice or are they too lazy to go to school and get a normal job? They’re looking for quick and easier way to make money. If a drug dealer gets shot and killed during a drug sale transaction, who do you blame? It’s the same as if a prostitute gets raped. That’s the life they chose which comes with consequences, wright or wrong

 

[Avs9296]

Ohhhh boy. This thread has officially gone off the rails. Can't we just talk about hockey?

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Why become a sex worker or prostitute? Do this women have no other choice or are they too lazy to go to school and get a normal job? They’re looking for quick and easier way to make money. If a drug dealer gets shot and killed during a drug sale transaction, who do you blame? It’s the same as if a prostitute gets raped. That’s the life they chose which comes with consequences, wright or wrong

Yikes man.

All I got to say is, maybe you should go spend some time in the real world. I think you pretty clearly have quite a lot to learn and the internet isn't really the place for that.

 

[DanishAvsfan]

Why become a sex worker or prostitute? Do this women have no other choice or are they too lazy to go to school and get a normal job? They’re looking for quick and easier way to make money. If a drug dealer gets shot and killed during a drug sale transaction, who do you blame? It’s the same as if a prostitute gets raped. That’s the life they chose which comes with consequences, wright or wrong

Honestly, your entire argument is ignorant and chauvinistic. For your own sake, it is better to back down. You are not going to be able to dig yourself out of this one.

 

[Foppa2118]

Why become a sex worker or prostitute? Do this women have no other choice or are they too lazy to go to school and get a normal job? They’re looking for quick and easier way to make money. If a drug dealer gets shot and killed during a drug sale transaction, who do you blame? It’s the same as if a prostitute gets raped. That’s the life they chose which comes with consequences, wright or wrong

Dude I like you and I'm trying to help you out here, but I think this may be a bit of a blind spot for you. Which is ok, we all have them.

Your description of sex workers make up just a fraction that are doing it. The high class escorts making lots of money or the ones that are doing it to pay for college or something. The ones that voluntarily entered into it and can leave when they want to.

There's a shit load of people that are literally forced into it somehow and can't leave. Especially foreign women who found a way to get here by boat, only for them to arrive, have their passports stolen so they won't leave, and literally forced into prostitution, and threatened with their life if they leave or go to the police.

And regardless of which group they're in, both can literally be raped, because the worst of the this world prey on them, and know that they won't go to the police, and think nobody will care or notice if something happens to them or if they disappear.

Again I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it's important to point this out.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

 

[the_fan]

LOL some women work at Starbucks and maybe have a 2nd legitimate job to pay for college, they don’t choose to be sex workers and prostitutes to pay for college.

What I’m getting from this argument is, it’s ok to be a hooker but not ok facing a danger like getting raped. Seriously just stop posting and telling me I sound ignorant or I have a lot to learn.

I’m sorry but you guys sound stupid saying shit like that. Just think before typing maybe that will help

 

[Foppa2118]