NHL, Turner Sports reach 7 year TV deal for games on TNT, TBS

[OG6ix]

Those puck soup guys get it when they talk about how to do a studio show. Thank god Puck Daddy is at ESPN. NBC catered to people who they thought were potentially watching which ended up catering to no one.

 

[NextBigThing]

There's been weeks recently where AEW beat Raw in the demo. I don't believe that was before NXT moved to Tuesdays.

As for AEW, this from Postwrestling today:

POLLOCK'S NEWS UPDATE: Tony Khan comments on NHL-Turner deal (postwrestling.com)

So it sounds like that if they want to move their night of the week, AEW has to sign off. Now, that hasn't stopped them from being pre-empted by NBA playoffs.​

False. AEW has never outrated RAW in the demo.

 

[jkrdevil]

Yeah but that's for a couple of weeks, now we're talking about months or maybe a whole network change. It's different but i think Turner can get around these stuff until 2022 when the new MLB kicks in and they get their first NBA/NHL playoffs. Those months from march to june are going to be huge for TNT/TBS.

It’s probably best for everyone to make a move in September/October ahead of the NHL season and be done with it. Just moving it to TBS makes the most sense. Then they have two weeks of interruptions all year because of the MLB playoffs in October. And it may not even be that as one of those Wednesdays would be a Game 5 of the division series (so it may not even happen) and the other could be one of the LCS day games TBS has to air. Other than that there would be no interruptions as ESPN would have Wednesday night playoff rights for the NHL (and TNT airs NBA on Wednesdays for the playoffs). As is AEW has to move for about a month because of the NBA playoffs. For AEW it may make more business sense for growth to make the one time switch but then have consistency from there out than having to bounce around on the regular.

That said I’m sure AEW will try to leverage the situation to get something extra from Turner.

 

[GKJ]

False. AEW has never outrated RAW in the demo.

Then it was close. I think Raw did .6 the week AEW had Shaq and did a .54 or something

 

[Marshmallow Man]

False. AEW has never outrated RAW in the demo.

Yes it did. It happened December 2020. AEW got 0.42 while RAW got a 0.41.

 

[Kirk Van Houten]

It’s probably best for everyone to make a move in September/October ahead of the NHL season and be done with it. Just moving it to TBS makes the most sense. Then they have two weeks of interruptions all year because of the MLB playoffs in October. And it may not even be that as one of those Wednesdays would be a Game 5 of the division series (so it may not even happen) and the other could be one of the LCS day games TBS has to air. Other than that there would be no interruptions as ESPN would have Wednesday night playoff rights for the NHL (and TNT airs NBA on Wednesdays for the playoffs). As is AEW has to move for about a month because of the NBA playoffs. For AEW it may make more business sense for growth to make the one time switch but then have consistency from there out than having to bounce around on the regular.

That said I’m sure AEW will try to leverage the situation to get something extra from Turner.

They have a second show waiting to debut for like a year now so they might put that on air after Turner makes the whole schedule clear.

 

[He Lied to Mario]

WHA pushed them more than WHL

It was the WHL that was part of the reason that the NHL did the second 6 expansion in 1967. There were concerns that the WHL and/or AHL could form a second major league. The WHA wasn't around until 1972.

The WHA did cause the Islanders to come into the league as an expansion team to fight against the New York WHA team.

 

[Spydey629]

This may be obvious, but I am going to ask it anyway...

Turner's rotation will basically work out to one major championship a year, correct? NCAAs next year, Stanley Cup in 2023, yaddda, yadda, yadda...

 

[GKJ]

I’ve probably posted this 3 or 4 times but I’ll say it again. Advertisers don’t value wrestling fans. The vast majority of them are uneducated, unemployed, and have little to no disposable income. It doesn’t matter how many viewers the wrasslin show gets or what the demo is because it attracts weak advertisers. Even if the NHL gets lower ratings, the networks will still choose hockey because of the significantly higher ad rate.

Don’t take this personally. There are exceptions and you could be one.

Vast majority are ‘unemployed?’ You know they sell things right?

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Something else the national media has overlooked - AT&T OWNS Turner and all the Warner properties and DirecTV

Time will tell but I think this is a good deal for US hockey fans.

When you think about it, this is really the whole deal.

1 Telecom behemoth taking the rights from another. Vertical integration at its finest.

One just added a really nice product to its streaming service. Half of the Stanley Cup Playoffs will soon be sold the same way the Premier League and Champions League are on other services.

 

[Fenway]

When you think about it, this is really the whole deal.

1 Telecom behemoth taking the rights from another. Vertical integration at its finest.

One just added a really nice product to its streaming service. Half of the Stanley Cup Playoffs will soon be sold the same way the Premier League and Champions League are on other services.

The AT&T factor has been overlooked but they are signing the checks.

The other thing of note, NBC knew exactly what the NHL was worth.

Meanwhile, Comcast will still make money on the NHL simply by selling local ads on cable in many NHL cities.

 

[jkutswings]

So ultimately, how does this work for cord cutters without a VPN? How many games of their local team could one expect to see if they have no access to a regional sports network, and blackout rules apply for streaming services?

National exposure is great, but ultimately I only care what it would cost me to watch <X> games of <Team Y> per year (or per month, if you prefer).

 

[Joe from Maine]

Interesting article from Awful Announcing. One of their questions is will Fox struggle to get media rights in the future with out a comprehensive streaming service?

Five questions that still need to be answered after the NHL's TV deal with Turner

 

[jkrdevil]

Interesting article from Awful Announcing. One of their questions is will Fox struggle to get media rights in the future with out a comprehensive streaming service?

Five questions that still need to be answered after the NHL's TV deal with Turner

They may have to find partners. The rumor was they were partnering with Apple on their bid

 

[OG6ix]

Should be interesting to hear what EJ thinks

 

[Kirk Van Houten]

This may be obvious, but I am going to ask it anyway...

Turner's rotation will basically work out to one major championship a year, correct? NCAAs next year, Stanley Cup in 2023, yaddda, yadda, yadda...

Yes with one NBA, NHL and MLB conference finals series every year

 

[GreenHornet]

It was the WHL that was part of the reason that the NHL did the second 6 expansion in 1967. There were concerns that the WHL and/or AHL could form a second major league. The WHA wasn't around until 1972.

The WHA did cause the Islanders to come into the league as an expansion team to fight against the New York WHA team.

Indeed, the '72 expansion to the Island and Atlanta was a pre-emptive strike against the WHA.

 

[OG6ix]

"Everyone always says, well, tv doesn't do it justice. Well, TV is about to." - Ernie Johnson (TNT, Inside the NBA).

Man that gave me chills how confident these guys are. I didn't know EJ was a hockey fan.

 

[danderson400]

Bettman is likely glad he wont have to worry about NBC preempting games for horse racing or SNL anymore.

 

[OG6ix]

Bettman is likely glad he wont have to worry about NBC preempting games for horse racing or SNL anymore.

I always hated how they would schedule before the Preakness like if the NHL is going to be a good segway into horse racing. Talk about being behind the times. They should have just scheduled games later in the day or not at all.

 

[LadyStanley]

The NHL will get into bed with anyone with just enough literacy to write a cheque.

The biggest check.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

I always hated how they would schedule before the Preakness like if the NHL is going to be a good segway into horse racing. Talk about being behind the times. They should have just scheduled games later in the day or not at all.

They actually did have Game 5 of ECSF Blue Jackets-Bruins following the Kentucky Derby. It got a very good rating too. So NBC was smart enough to do that in that instance.

 

[OG6ix]

They actually did have Game 5 of ECSF Blue Jackets-Bruins following the Kentucky Derby. It got a very good rating too. So NBC was smart enough to do that in that instance.

Ya I remember that and wondered why they didn't just do that to begin with. I know there are people who liked their coverage I just thought that it wasn't anything special where you get into bed with for 10 years and shoot yourself in the foot when, it seems, tv money was at its peak.

 

[jkrdevil]

NBC was basically forced to put the playoff games in primetime because of the 2013 lockout delaying the postseason to where they had to because of other conflicts. Then they ratings weren’t terrible and they kept doing that since.

One of the negatives with the new tv deals is those prime tv slots are gone. ESPN/ABC airs NBA on the weekends and the NBA will get the primetime slot like they doing with the regular season there. Turner is obviously cable only.

The derby/Preakness conflicts are gone, but the late round afternoon playoff games are back.

 

[GKJ]

NBC was basically forced to put the playoff games in primetime because of the 2013 lockout delaying the postseason to where they had to because of other conflicts. Then they ratings weren’t terrible and they kept doing that since.

One of the negatives with the new tv deals is those prime tv slots are gone. ESPN/ABC airs NBA on the weekends and the NBA will get the primetime slot like they doing with the regular season there. Turner is obviously cable only.

The derby/Preakness conflicts are gone, but the late round afternoon playoff games are back.

Late-round afternoon playoff games never left. In 2019, both conference finals had afternoon games.