Prospect Info: NHL Entry Draft Discussion Thread - First Round Tuesday October 6th

[Maplebeasts]

I still say Dubas might do a trade up.

It's possible. They have a ton of late picks and it looks like there's the chance for someone like Rossi to be available around 10. I think this draft is going to surprise a lot of people, especially without the CHL playoffs or U18's being played before season's end. The start of European hockey and the QMJHL is maybe also a factor.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Now ?? What have these guys been doing since they acquired the pick?? Especially since they have not had one since the Marleau deal and their scouts probably paid little attention to the top prospects.

What's with the outrage? It's not like the scouts or Dubas' spent all season on vacation. They are just debating whether or not to pick, and whether it's wise to trade up or down.

 

[Myopic]

I would use some of the late round picks on prospects who have been injured or even missed the entire year. Just think outside the box to find diamonds in the rough. They should be looked at as high risk high reward picks.

 

[Lil Tuzzi Bert]

Hope we draft Chinakhov at some point Wednesday

 

[The CyNick]

Hypothetical here...Would you rather have picks 15 and 44....or...4 picks from 32-44....or a low 20's, a high 20's and 44?

15. I would trade all other picks if I could get into the 1st round again.

 

[LaPlante94]

Hypothetical here...Would you rather have picks 15 and 44....or...4 picks from 32-44....or a low 20's, a high 20's and 44?

The 4 picks tbh. 20-100 range has a lot of good players imo

 

[stickty111]

I agree there are deals on the table. I just don't see him trading up in the draft.

Thats fair

 

[phillipmike]

Hypothetical here...Would you rather have picks 15 and 44....or...4 picks from 32-44....or a low 20's, a high 20's and 44?

I’ll take the two first round picks and 44.
At worst you have 24 and 29.

could easily trade 24 and 44 for 15.

15 and 29 > 15 and 44

 

[The CyNick]

Think the Leafs will be able to land a small winger?

 

[HC7]

Pronman has us taking Perrault which wouldn't be great imo. Another offensive RW that likes to play on the perimeter with the puck on his stuck.

God forbid we get someone like Guhle, or Zary that plays the kind of hockey that succeeds in the playoffs.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

The one thing to remember is that there are not many teams that really have the assets to get 15. Chicago would have to offer PIT's 2nd to just get from 17 to 15.

I think if I was serious about moving back, it would be to a team like Anaheim for 27 + 36 + 67 or Ottawa for 28 + 33 + 59/61/64. Otherwise, I would move it to Chicago for 17 + 46.

Other than that, IDK if I would consider any other team. They don't really have the assets unless we do 18 + 20 for 15 + Johnsson from New Jersey. Maybe 19 + 50 + 96 from Calgary.

Main thing is that a 3rd is not going to move us down unless it is Montreal and we are indifferent between two guys.

 

[Fogelhund]

Pronman has us taking Perrault which wouldn't be great imo. Another offensive RW that likes to play on the perimeter with the puck on his stuck.

God forbid we get someone like Guhle, or Zary that plays the kind of hockey that succeeds in the playoffs.

They are all pretty much stretches at #15.... in particular Guhle and Zary. That being said, we still draft for the BPA, most talent at our position... I fully appreciate that we need some size, and grit, but we've got nine picks in the last few rounds, to throw at some guys with size, and skating ability, that might fly below the radar. That would be part of my strategy... find that grit in later rounds.

 

[HC7]

They are all pretty much stretches at #15.... in particular Guhle and Zary. That being said, we still draft for the BPA, most talent at our position... I fully appreciate that we need some size, and grit, but we've got nine picks in the last few rounds, to throw at some guys with size, and skating ability, that might fly below the radar. That would be part of my strategy... find that grit in later rounds.

Grit in the later rounds are shit players. You need skilled players that aren't afraid to grind and those guy go in the 1st round. You can still find small offensive talent later in the draft but skill and grit goes quick.

Guhle isn't a stretch at 14, most mocks have him going before or just after.

 

[Green Snow Storm]

Pronman has us taking Perrault which wouldn't be great imo. Another offensive RW that likes to play on the perimeter with the puck on his stuck.

God forbid we get someone like Guhle, or Zary that plays the kind of hockey that succeeds in the playoffs.

I like Perrault, just maybe not for us. That guy could be a 30-40 goal scorer or literally nothing. I'd rather Mercer, Lapierre, Zary, Reichel, or even Greig.

 

[Fogelhund]

Grit in the later rounds are shit players. You need skilled players that aren't afraid to grind and those guy go in the 1st round. You can still find small offensive talent later in the draft but skill and grit goes quick.

Guhle isn't a stretch at 14, most mocks have him going before or just after.

Hyman was a 5th round pick.
Patrick Maroon a 6th round pick.
Brendan Lemieux is a second round pick.

 

[stickty111]

So Pronman did a final mock draft a few minutes ago, and well things seem to have changed. I will put it my own words

1. Rangers are picking Laffy guaranteed.

2. Kings are likely taking Stutzle over Byfield

3. Sens pick the left over

4. Wings take Perfetti but heard they may choose Raymond or Askarov.

5. Most info suggests Sanderson to Sens but isn't confident. Quinn and Askarov are in the mix.

6. Ducks are linked to the 2 d man the most, but says if Sanderson goes #5, Ducks might go with ths highest skilled player on the board in Raymond.

7. Devils like the d men the most. They seem to like Sanderson more, but if he is gone, they take Drysdale.

8. Sabres take Quinn. Has heard him and Rossi the most connected to them, but heard Quinn more.

9. Rossi has to be the obvious pick for the Wild, but if he goes before, Askarov and Holtz are other options.

10. Jets take Holtz but could see Jarvis here too.

11. Preds take Askarov, but it just seemed like he chose him because of fit. Could see Jarvis here as well

12. Pronman has Florida taking Jarvis, but he was just guessing here and the league is too. During the Tallon era, the speculation was Schnieder.

13. Canes take Lapierre. He is what they look for in a player. He has been getting a lot of attention around the league after his fantastic start. Jarvis is an option too.

14. Edmonton takes Hollway. This has been his hunch for some time, and hasn't heard info to stray away from that. Guhle is also another option

15. Leafs take Perrault. He was guessing on this one and basing it on tendancy. Other teams feel Zary and Amirov are possibilities.

If Pronman is correct, and with Florida being the wild card, there is a decent chance Jarvis and Lundell could get to the Leafs

 

[Maplebeasts]

So Pronman did a final mock draft a few minutes ago, and well things seem to have changed. I will put it my own words

1. Rangers are picking Laffy guaranteed.

2. Kings are likely taking Stutzle over Byfield

3. Sens pick the left over

4. Wings take Perfetti but heard they may choose Raymond or Askarov.

5. Most info suggests Sanderson to Sens but isn't confident. Quinn and Askarov are in the mix.

6. Ducks are linked to the 2 d man the most, but says if Sanderson goes #5, Ducks might go with ths highest skilled player on the board in Raymond.

7. Devils like the d men the most. They seem to like Sanderson more, but if he is gone, they take Drysdale.

8. Sabres take Quinn. Has heard him and Rossi the most connected to them, but heard Quinn more.

9. Rossi has to be the obvious pick for the Wild, but if he goes before, Askarov and Holtz are other options.

10. Jets take Holtz but could see Jarvis here too.

11. Preds take Askarov, but it just seemed like he chose him because of fit. Could see Jarvis here as well

12. Pronman has Florida taking Jarvis, but he was just guessing here and the league is too. During the Tallon era, the speculation was Schnieder.

13. Canes take Lapierre. He is what they look for in a player. He has been getting a lot of attention around the league after his fantastic start. Jarvis is an option too.

14. Edmonton takes Hollway. This has been his hunch for some time, and hasn't heard info to stray away from that. Guhle is also another option

15. Leafs take Perrault. He was guessing on this one and basing it on tendancy. Other teams feel Zary and Amirov are possibilities.

If Pronman is correct, and with Florida being the wild card, there is a decent chance Jarvis and Lundell could get to the Leafs

Is Pronman in regular contact with team scouts or something? You make it sound like he has talked to guys around the league. I'd be a bit disappointed if we took Perrault without trading back first.

 

[Green Snow Storm]

So Pronman did a final mock draft a few minutes ago, and well things seem to have changed. I will put it my own words

1. Rangers are picking Laffy guaranteed.

2. Kings are likely taking Stutzle over Byfield

3. Sens pick the left over

4. Wings take Perfetti but heard they may choose Raymond or Askarov.

5. Most info suggests Sanderson to Sens but isn't confident. Quinn and Askarov are in the mix.

6. Ducks are linked to the 2 d man the most, but says if Sanderson goes #5, Ducks might go with ths highest skilled player on the board in Raymond.

7. Devils like the d men the most. They seem to like Sanderson more, but if he is gone, they take Drysdale.

8. Sabres take Quinn. Has heard him and Rossi the most connected to them, but heard Quinn more.

9. Rossi has to be the obvious pick for the Wild, but if he goes before, Askarov and Holtz are other options.

10. Jets take Holtz but could see Jarvis here too.

11. Preds take Askarov, but it just seemed like he chose him because of fit. Could see Jarvis here as well

12. Pronman has Florida taking Jarvis, but he was just guessing here and the league is too. During the Tallon era, the speculation was Schnieder.

13. Canes take Lapierre. He is what they look for in a player. He has been getting a lot of attention around the league after his fantastic start. Jarvis is an option too.

14. Edmonton takes Hollway. This has been his hunch for some time, and hasn't heard info to stray away from that. Guhle is also another option

15. Leafs take Perrault. He was guessing on this one and basing it on tendancy. Other teams feel Zary and Amirov are possibilities.

If Pronman is correct, and with Florida being the wild card, there is a decent chance Jarvis and Lundell could get to the Leafs

Looks like Buffalo are all set to shoot themselves in the foot again.

 

[stickty111]

Is Pronman in regular contact with team scouts or something? You make it sound like he has talked to guys around the league. I'd be a bit disappointed if we took Perrault without trading back first.

I'm only going by what he said in the article. "I've heard this team likes him or him" are not my words. He said it in the article himself, so I have to think he has some connections.

 

[stickty111]

Looks like Buffalo are all set to shoot themselves in the foot again.

Sure looks like it.

 

[Maplebeasts]

I'm only going by what he said in the article. "I've heard this team likes him or him" are not my words. He said it in the article himself, so I have to think he has some connections.

Ok then. I like Pronman but thought he didn't have those connections. I just thought he was a scout/writer for the Athletic. I just seriously hope Perrault is not the pick unlesss we're trading back to 20+ and Khusnutdinov is gone.

 

[Canada4Gold]

So Pronman did a final mock draft a few minutes ago, and well things seem to have changed. I will put it my own words

1. Rangers are picking Laffy guaranteed.

2. Kings are likely taking Stutzle over Byfield

3. Sens pick the left over

4. Wings take Perfetti but heard they may choose Raymond or Askarov.

5. Most info suggests Sanderson to Sens but isn't confident. Quinn and Askarov are in the mix.

6. Ducks are linked to the 2 d man the most, but says if Sanderson goes #5, Ducks might go with ths highest skilled player on the board in Raymond.

7. Devils like the d men the most. They seem to like Sanderson more, but if he is gone, they take Drysdale.

8. Sabres take Quinn. Has heard him and Rossi the most connected to them, but heard Quinn more.

9. Rossi has to be the obvious pick for the Wild, but if he goes before, Askarov and Holtz are other options.

10. Jets take Holtz but could see Jarvis here too.

11. Preds take Askarov, but it just seemed like he chose him because of fit. Could see Jarvis here as well

12. Pronman has Florida taking Jarvis, but he was just guessing here and the league is too. During the Tallon era, the speculation was Schnieder.

13. Canes take Lapierre. He is what they look for in a player. He has been getting a lot of attention around the league after his fantastic start. Jarvis is an option too.

14. Edmonton takes Hollway. This has been his hunch for some time, and hasn't heard info to stray away from that. Guhle is also another option

15. Leafs take Perrault. He was guessing on this one and basing it on tendancy. Other teams feel Zary and Amirov are possibilities.

If Pronman is correct, and with Florida being the wild card, there is a decent chance Jarvis and Lundell could get to the Leafs

Lundell falling to 21 is quite the bold call from him. If he's there at 15 that's who I want. I have him ranked 6th overall.

I also had Barzal ranked 6th overall in 2015 and he fell to 16 so who knows.

 

[Rude Dog]

Nothing worse than watching your top pick fall to your favourite team only to watch the GM trade the pick or even worse reach on some unheard of guy. Hoping for Jarvis or Lapierre.

 

[nuck]

So Pronman did a final mock draft a few minutes ago, and well things seem to have changed. I will put it my own words

1. Rangers are picking Laffy guaranteed.

2. Kings are likely taking Stutzle over Byfield

3. Sens pick the left over

4. Wings take Perfetti but heard they may choose Raymond or Askarov.

5. Most info suggests Sanderson to Sens but isn't confident. Quinn and Askarov are in the mix.

6. Ducks are linked to the 2 d man the most, but says if Sanderson goes #5, Ducks might go with ths highest skilled player on the board in Raymond.

7. Devils like the d men the most. They seem to like Sanderson more, but if he is gone, they take Drysdale.

8. Sabres take Quinn. Has heard him and Rossi the most connected to them, but heard Quinn more.

9. Rossi has to be the obvious pick for the Wild, but if he goes before, Askarov and Holtz are other options.

10. Jets take Holtz but could see Jarvis here too.

11. Preds take Askarov, but it just seemed like he chose him because of fit. Could see Jarvis here as well

12. Pronman has Florida taking Jarvis, but he was just guessing here and the league is too. During the Tallon era, the speculation was Schnieder.

13. Canes take Lapierre. He is what they look for in a player. He has been getting a lot of attention around the league after his fantastic start. Jarvis is an option too.

14. Edmonton takes Hollway. This has been his hunch for some time, and hasn't heard info to stray away from that. Guhle is also another option

15. Leafs take Perrault. He was guessing on this one and basing it on tendancy. Other teams feel Zary and Amirov are possibilities.

If Pronman is correct, and with Florida being the wild card, there is a decent chance Jarvis and Lundell could get to the Leafs

I don't think Perreault even goes top 20. Lundell for sure if he is there at 15 and if gone, then Amirov, Bourque and Zary look way more likely to me than Perrealt. His picks from last year are below. Always interesting but not particularly accurate. Loves him some small danglers (had Bracco at 16 back in 2015)

Corey Pronman The Athletic May 21st	Sam Cosentino Sportsnet May. 8th	Scott Wheeler The Athletic May 6th
1	Jack Hughes	Jack Hughes
2	Kaapo Kakko	Kaapo Kakko
3	Alex Turcotte	Bowen Byram
4	Bowen Byram	Alex Turcotte
5	Cole Caufield	Trevor Zegras
6	Trevor Zegras	Dylan Cozens
7	Dylan Cozens	Vasili Podkolzin
8	Matthew Boldy	Kirby Dach
9	Philip Broberg	Matthew Boldy
10	Kirby Dach	Peyton Krebs
11	Alex Newhook	Philip Broberg
12	Vasili Podkolzin	Cole Caufield
13	Peyton Krebs	Alex Newhook
14	Arthur Kaliyev	Victor Soderstrom
15	Ryan Suzuki	Cam York
16	Cam York	Thomas Harley
17	Philip Tomasino	Arthur Kaliyev
18	Nils Hoglander	Spencer Knight
19	Patrik Puistola	Ville Heinola
20	Thomas Harley

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[nuck]

To be honest I have no clue. The players I want at 15 are Jarvis, Quinn, Amirov, or Lapierre.

All those guy have potential to be good picks at 15. Its a little surprising Quinn doesn't get more love, but he doesn't seem to be anyone's favorite even with the sniping. Could be this years Skinner.