NFL: NFC Playoff Picture

[misterchainsaw]

A couple of playoff clinching scenarios I wasn't even looking at or for on Monday:
- Minnesota clinches the NFC North with a win and a Detroit loss (this one I had indirectly....if 3 teams are eliminated from divison contention, the other must have clinched lol)
- Philadelphia clinches a wild card spot with a win, WSH loss, SEA loss, and SF loss.

 

[LightningStorm]

- Minnesota clinches the NFC North with a win and a Detroit loss (this one I had indirectly....if 3 teams are eliminated from divison contention, the other must have clinched lol)

As a Vikings fan, I don't know what's more strange, that we can clinch the first week of December, or that it's the Lions, not the Packers, in 2nd.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

As a Vikings fan, I don't know what's more strange, that we can clinch the first week of December, or that it's the Lions, not the Packers, in 2nd.

And the Lions can cheer for wins every game because it's the Rams' pick that is their meal ticket.

That's right, the defending Super Bowl champions are handing a higher pick to the Lions at the moment than the Lions will receive themselves.

This is one f***ed up year.

 

[LightningStorm]

And the Lions can cheer for wins every game because it's the Rams' pick that is their meal ticket.

That's right, the defending Super Bowl champions are handing a higher pick to the Lions at the moment than the Lions will receive themselves.

This is one f***ed up year.

Similar to how everyone thought the Seahawks would be tanking this year. But them competing for a playoff spot hasn't been in vain with their pick from the Broncos being a top 5 one as of now.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Similar to how everyone thought the Seahawks would be tanking this year. But them competing for a playoff spot hasn't been in vain with their pick from the Broncos being a top 5 one as of now.

That trade is the best thing to happen to the Seahawks since 2014. What a boost.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Bears are eliminated by the NYG/WAS tie. Had either team won they'd still be alive. That's a fun way to go out

 

[Super Fadio Bro]

Neither the Vikings nor the Eagles clinched today.

 

[misterchainsaw]

The tie for the Giants and Washington was quite good for both teams - neither team had a good conference record in comparison to their competitors (well, one competitor unless Detroit makes a run) for the wild card spots, so it acts more as a win. Washington being on the bye this week will take care of the games played difference between them and Seattle/NY Giants.

AFTER WEEK 13: (f - Eliminated from first round bye contention, d- Eliminated from division contention)
1. Philadelphia - 11-1
2. Minnesota - 10-2
3. San Francisco - 8-4 (Leads NFC West)
4. Tampa Bay - 6-6 (Leads NFC South)
5. Dallas - 9-3
6. NY Giants - 7-4-1
7. Seattle - 7-5
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8. Washington - 7-5-1
9. d-Detroit - 5-7
10. Atlanta - 5-8 (Holds strength of victory tiebreaker over GB)
11. df-Green Bay - 5-8 (ARZ is eliminated from 3-way tiebreaker by conference record, holds Strength of Victory tiebreaker over CAR. NO eliminated from tiebreaker by CAR))
12. f-Arizona - 4-8 (Owns H2H tiebreaker over CAR)
13. f-Carolina - 4-8
14. f-New Orleans - 4-9
15. df-Los Angeles - 3-9
ELIMINATED: Chicago

CONTROL OF DESTINY:
- Philadelphia controls its own destiny for the first round bye.
- Minnesota controls its own destiny for the NFC North.
- San Francisco controls its own destiny for the NFC West.
- Tampa Bay controls its own destiny for the NFC South
- Dallas controls its own destiny for a wild card birth
- The NY Giants control its own destiny for a wild card birth.
- Washington controls its own destiny for a wild card birth
- Seattle controls its own destiny for a wild card birth.

POTENTIAL CHANGES IN CONTROL OF DESTINY IN WEEK 14:
- Dallas will gain control of their own destiny for the first round bye with a win, PHI loss, and MIN loss.
- Dallas will gain control of their own destiny for the NFC East with a win and a PHI loss.
- Seattle will gain control of their own destiny for the NFC West with a win and a SF loss.
- Seattle will lose control of their own destiny for a wild card birth with a loss, SF win, and NYG win.

CLINCHING OR ELIMINATION SCENARIOS IN WEEK 14:
- Minnesota clinches the NFC North with a win
- Philadelphia clinches a wild card spot with either (1)a win, or (2)a SF and SEA loss.
- The LA Rams is eliminated from playoff contention with either (1)a loss, or (2)a SEA and NYG win.
- Arizona is eliminated from playoff contention with a loss, SEA win, NYG win, and SF win.
- Arizona is eliminated from NFC West contention with a SF win or a SEA win.
- Detroit is eliminated from NFC North contention with a loss.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I know playoff Brady is a thing but the Cowboys are going to steamroll the Bucs in the playoffs.

How in f*** hell is that porous OL going to contain Dallas' front seven?

 

[PanthersPens62]

I know playoff Brady is a thing but the Cowboys are going to steamroll the Bucs in the playoffs.

How in f*** hell is that porous OL going to contain Dallas' front seven?

Remember, Playoff Dallas is kinda like Playoff Kershaw!

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Remember, Playoff Dallas is kinda like Playoff Kershaw!

Nobody wants the Cowboys to fail more than I do. Trust me.

EDIT: OK, maybe some people. But not many.

 

[John Price]

 

[tank44]

Seahawks have H2H tiebreaker over Lions. IF Seahawks go 2-2 over last 4 games, Lions would need to win out to leap them. If Lions go 3-1 they would need 2 of the teams to go 1-3.

Winner of next weeks Commanders-Giants game is virtually locked in. Giants definitly have the tougher final stretch.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Seahawks have H2H tiebreaker over Lions. IF Seahawks go 2-2 over last 4 games, Lions would need to win out to leap them. If Lions go 3-1 they would need 2 of the teams to go 1-3.

Winner of next weeks Commanders-Giants game is virtually locked in. Giants definitly have the tougher final stretch.

Tie confirmed

 

[misterchainsaw]

Seahawks have H2H tiebreaker over Lions. IF Seahawks go 2-2 over last 4 games, Lions would need to win out to leap them. If Lions go 3-1 they would need 2 of the teams to go 1-3.

Winner of next weeks Commanders-Giants game is virtually locked in. Giants definitly have the tougher final stretch.

I wouldn't say that. If the winner of that game loses their last 3, they're still going to be in trouble. And both will be underdogs in 2 of their final 3 games, so all it would take is one upset. Seattle and Detroit could still easily finish ahead of both the Giants and the Commanders in that scenario just by beating teams they should beat.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Philly's win makes them the first team officially in the playoffs, as well as eliminates both Washington and the Giants from NFC East contention, while Detroit continues to make a run. Record wise the Vikings were the toughest team the Lions had left, although up next is a game with the Jets in a matchup of teams currently on the outside looking in. Carolina, of all teams, controls their destiny to win the NFC South (along with Tampa) after Tampa's loss and their win over Seattle.

AFTER WEEK 14: (f-Eliminated from first round bye contention, d-Eliminated from division contention, x-Clinched playoff spot)
1. x-Philadelphia - 12-1
2. Minnesota - 10-3 (Leads NFC North)
3. San Francisco - 9-4 (Leads NFC West)
4. f-Tampa Bay - 6-7 (Leads NFC South)
5. Dallas - 10-3
6. df-Washington - 7-5-1 (Holds division record tiebreaker over NYG)
7. df-NY Giants - 7-5-1
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8. f-Seattle - 7-6
9. f-Detroit - 6-7
10. df-Green Bay - 5-8 (Holds Strength of Victory tiebreaker over CAR)
11. f-Carolina - 5-8 (Holds division record tiebreaker over ATL)
12. f-Atlanta - 5-8
13. f-Arizona - 4-9 (Holds common opponents tiebreaker over LAR) (Owns H2H tiebraker over NO)
14. f-New Orleans - 4-9 (Owns H2H tiebreaker over LAR)
15. df-Los Angeles - 4-9
ELIMINATED: Chicago

CONTROL OF DESTINY:
- Philadelphia controls its own destiny for the first round bye.
- Minnesota controls its own destiny for the NFC North.
- San Francisco controls its own destiny for the NFC West.
- Tampa Bay controls its own destiny for the NFC South.
- Carolina controls its own destiny for the NFC South.
- Dallas controls its own destiny for a wild card birth
- The NY Giants control its own destiny for a wild card birth.
- Washington controls its own destiny for a wild card birth
- Seattle controls its own destiny for a wild card birth.

POTENTIAL CHANGES IN CONTROL OF DESTINY IN WEEK 15:
- Dallas will gain control of its own destiny for the NFC East with a win and a PHI loss.
- Dallas will further gain control of its own destiny for the first round bye with the above and a MIN loss.
- Washington will lose control of its own destiny for the wild card with a loss and a SEA win.
- The NY Giants will lose control of its own destiny for the wild card with a loss and a SEA win.
- Seattle will lose control of its own destiny for a wild card birth with a loss.

CLINCHING OR ELIMINATION SCENARIOS IN WEEK 15:
- Minnesota clinches the NFC North with a win or a DET loss
- San Francisco clinches the NFC West with a win.
- Dallas clinches a playoff birth with a win or a SEA loss combined with either a WSH or DET loss.

- The LA Rams are eliminated from playoff contention with a loss or a SEA win.
- New Orleans is elminated from NFC South and playoff contention with a loss and either a CAR or TB win.
- Arizona is eliminated from playoff contention with a loss or a SEA win.
- Detroit is eliminated from NFC North contention with a loss or MIN win.
- Seattle is eliminated from NFC West contention with a loss
- San Francisco is eliminated from first round bye contention with a loss and a PHI win.
- Minnesota is eliminated from first round bye contention with a loss and a PHI win.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Not too much drama in the NFC. Maybe if GB can top Miami next week we can have some intrigue. I mean, sure, the NFC South is kinda interesting? But it sucks.

AFTER WEEK 15: (f-Eliminated from first round bye contention, d-Eliminated from division contention, x-Clinched playoff spot)
1. x-Philadelphia - 13-1
2. y-Minnesota - 11-3
3. y-San Francisco - 10-4 (Won NFC West)
4. f-Tampa Bay - 6-8 (Leads NFC South)
5. x-Dallas - 10-4
6. df-NY Giants- 8-5-1
7. df-Washington - 7-6-1
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8. df-Seattle - 7-7 (Owns H2H tiebreaker over DET)
9. df-Detroit - 7-7
10. df-Green Bay - 6-8
11. f-Carolina - 5-9 (ATL is eliminated from division tiebreaker by H2H, CAR holds H2H tiebreaker over NO)
12. f-New Orleans - 5-9 (Owns H2H tiebreaker over ATL)
13. f-Atlanta - 5-9
ELIMINATED: Chicago, Arizona, LA Rams

CONTROL OF DESTINY:
- Philadelphia controls its own destiny for the first round bye.
- Tampa Bay controls its own destiny for the NFC South.
- Carolina controls its own destiny for the NFC South.
- Dallas controls its own destiny for a wild card birth
- The NY Giants control its own destiny for a wild card birth.
- Washington controls its own destiny for a wild card birth

POTENTIAL CHANGES IN CONTROL OF DESTINY IN WEEK 16:
- Washington will lose control of its own destiny for a wild card with a loss and either a SEA or DET win.
- Seattle will gain control of its own destiny for a wild card with a win and a WSH loss
- Detroit will gain control of its own destiny for a wild card with a win, WSH loss, and SEA loss.
- Carolina will lose control of its own destiny for the NFC South with a loss and a TB or ATL win.
- Atlanta will gain control of its own destiny for the NFC South with a win, TB loss, and CAR loss.

CLINCHING OR ELIMINATION SCENARIOS IN WEEK 16:
- Philadelphia clinches the first round bye and the NFC East with a win.
- The NY Giants clinch a playoff birth with a win and with two of the following three teams losing: WSH, SEA, DET

- Atlanta is eliminated from NFC South and playoff contention with a loss and either (1)a TB win or (2)a NO and CAR win.
- New Orleans is eliminated from NFC South and playoff contention with a loss and a TB win.
- Green Bay is eliminated from playoff contention with a loss and a WSH win.
- Dallas is eliminated from NFC East and top seed contention with a loss

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Hasn't Minnesota already clinched the North? Lions have 7 losses and there's no path that could take the Vikings to 7 losses.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Hasn't Minnesota already clinched the North? Lions have 7 losses and there's no path that could take the Vikings to 7 losses.

Yeah they did it last week. Put the wrong letter and didn't remove their destiny bit. You'll notice all 3 other North teams have been eliminated from division contention

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Can you change the coverage of the 49ers to what they need to do to get the second seed. You have them as "Controlling their own destiny" for the west, but they already won the west.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Can you change the coverage of the 49ers to what they need to do to get the second seed. You have them as "Controlling their own destiny" for the west, but they already won the west.

Done. I guess if a team really controlled their own destiny they'd be able to blow it if they wanted

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Playoff clinching scenarios for week 17:

 

[StreetHawk]

TB ends things with a win be Carolina. If Carolina wins, then it gets interesting with their tie breakers.

NYG and Wash have difficult games to close the season vs Phi and Dal but unlikely those 2 have anything to play for as the 1 seed and the WC1 spots could be locked up in week 17. Be interesting if pho and Dal sit a few starters.

Seattle closes vs the Jet and Rams at home.

Lions close vs the Bears and Packers.

Packers close vs Min and Lions.

 

[LightningStorm]

TB ends things with a win be Carolina. If Carolina wins, then it gets interesting with their tie breakers.

NYG and Wash have difficult games to close the season vs Phi and Dal but unlikely those 2 have anything to play for as the 1 seed and the WC1 spots could be locked up in week 17. Be interesting if pho and Dal sit a few starters.

Seattle closes vs the Jet and Rams at home.

Lions close vs the Bears and Packers.

Packers close vs Min and Lions.

Wash is 1/2 game up on the Packers, Seahawks and Lions. I think they hold onto their spot against a Browns team who's been eliminated and the Cowboys will likely be resting their starters the final week. Plus both games are at home.

If Wash does lose a game, I think the Seahawks have the best chance due to their easy schedule at home. Technically the Packers control their own destiny with another Wash loss, but they play 2 tossup games at home, in contrast to the 2 easier ones in Seattle. But the Packers would have the next best chance after the Seahawks, while the Lions have the toughest road of the 3. Have to win out, including a week 18 game in GB, and hope Seattle loses one of their final 2 games.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Brian Daboll getting this injury riddled Giants team to a position where they can clinch a playoff spot before the last week of the season with a mere win against a dreadful tanking Colts team...is nothing short of miraculous.

The tough part for him is that when you exceed expectations in NY...you need to be really good at holding your boat steady, my man.