News & Notes XXIII: Brindy Beats the Team Into Shape

[Joe McGrath]

6x8 right now, huh? I think that'd be somewhat ahead of his comparables (say, Pastrnak at $6.66m) and into Draisaitl territory. 6x8 would be in Draisaitl territory, and many think he's overpaid despite putting up better numbers than Aho each year.

I love our sweet boy but pretending that's a steal instead of "yeah, that's about right and maybe a little high but we got the deal done so I'm cool" is, in my opinion, off base.

$6 mil 8 years. Not the other way around. Not Draisitl territory.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

$6 mil 8 years. Not the other way around. Not Draisitl territory.

Oh wow. Duh.

Yeah $6m x 8 years would be incredible.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It will be interesting to see what Nylander signs for. The $79.5 mil equivalent of Pastrnak money is a little north of $ 7 mil, and that's with buying just 2 years of free agency. I don't take a penny less (assuming the same term) if I'm Aho, having outscored him with lesser teammates last season.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I’m also a little hesitant in letting myself believe we have nice things, so I’m not letting my expectations run wild for Aho quite yet...

 

[The Faulker 27]

8 years seems excessive, why not 6? If that's what it takes to lock up Aho, I get it, but I'm not a fan of these long contracts.

 

[GoldiFox]

8 years seems excessive, why not 6? If that's what it takes to lock up Aho, I get it, but I'm not a fan of these long contracts.

Would you be saying the same thing 6 years from now when Aho is leaving for UFA instead of being locked in for 2 more years at a cost-controlled rate?

Super long contracts are a bad idea for guys who aren't surefire stars (most UFA deals like Lucic, Backes, Eriksson, Ladd, etc.). Player's Aho's caliber should get a max-length contract. Anything else is poor asset management.

 

[geehaad]

Oh wow. Duh.

Yeah $6m x 8 years would be incredible.

 

[Lempo]

6x8 right now, huh? I think that'd be somewhat ahead of his comparables (say, Pastrnak at $6.66m) and into Draisaitl territory. 6x8 would be in Draisaitl territory, and many think he's overpaid despite putting up better numbers than Aho each year.

I love our sweet boy but pretending that's a steal instead of "yeah, that's about right and maybe a little high but we got the deal done so I'm cool" is, in my opinion, off base.

$6 mil 8 years. Not the other way around. Not Draisitl territory.

Oh wow. Duh.

Yeah $6m x 8 years would be incredible.

This is awesome exchange. You're awesome.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Would you be saying the same thing 6 years from now when Aho is leaving for UFA instead of being locked in for 2 more years at a cost-controlled rate?

Super long contracts are a bad idea for guys who aren't surefire stars (most UFA deals like Lucic, Backes, Eriksson, Ladd, etc.). Player's Aho's caliber should get a max-length contract. Anything else is poor asset management.

Well, I love Aho, but let's be honest, he's had one good season. I wouldn't necessarily call him a star yet, although he's trending that way.

 

[geehaad]

I don't usually wake up 5 am for love.

You're married too?

 

[Lempo]

8 years seems excessive, why not 6? If that's what it takes to lock up Aho, I get it, but I'm not a fan of these long contracts.

Can't help comparing to Barkov, $5.9M AAV 6 years. FLA would have wanted longer, Barkov wanted to get Paid at 26-27.

 

[Lempo]

You're married too?

My bride-to-be broke up the engagement back in the day. We've just been hanging on since then for 15 or so years and counting.

So, "no, BUT..."

 

[The Faulker 27]

Can't help comparing to Barkov, $5.9M AAV 6 years. FLA would have wanted longer, Barkov wanted to get Paid at 26-27.

That would be my line of thinking if I was a player.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

This is awesome exchange. You're awesome.

Well shucks? I’ll be sure to misread posts more often...

 

[GoldiFox]

Well, I love Aho, but let's be honest, he's had one good season. I wouldn't necessarily call him a star yet, although he's trending that way.

One way to look at it

Another way:
1) Aho was ranked as a 3rd+ round pick at the Draft
2) He then put up one of the best WJC performance of all time
3) He then finished one of the greatest U20 Finnish Elite League performances of all time and placed 2nd in MVP voting
4) He then made the NHL at 19 and has followed that up with:

		GP	G	A	Pts	+/-
2016-17	1st Half	41	10	13	23	0
2016-17	2nd Half	41	14	12	26	-1
2017-18	1st Half	41	13	20	33	-3
2017-18	2nd Half	37	16	16	32	7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Easy to say "he's just had one good season" but if you look a bit deeper you see that Aho has been on a developmental rocket ship. Where that peaks is anyone's guess.

Besides having superstar talent, Aho has a superstar work ethic and approach. When team's say "We want to build a strong organizational culture" they are saying they want to add guys like Sebastian Aho. That is a strong reason I think the Canes would want to lock up Aho for an eternity.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I fall in between both takes. Two good seasons (49 points as a rookie), but I’d call his NHL production an inclined plane more than a rocket ship.

 

[AeroFishOne]

NHL network is re-airing the draft and it just really reiterated that they tried their best to avoid discussing or doing anything with Carolina or Andrei Svechnikov. Really focused on Tkachuk and Quinn’s bromance and obviously as expected Dahlin.

Sorry I know that’s random. As far as Aho, I’d be willing to take that deal at $6mil for 8.

 

[The Faulker 27]

One way to look at it

Another way:
1) Aho was ranked as a 3rd+ round pick at the Draft
2) He then put up one of the best WJC performance of all time
3) He then finished one of the greatest U20 Finnish Elite League performances of all time and placed 2nd in MVP voting
4) He then made the NHL at 19 and has followed that up with:

		GP	G	A	Pts	+/-
2016-17	1st Half	41	10	13	23	0
2016-17	2nd Half	41	14	12	26	-1
2017-18	1st Half	41	13	20	33	-3
2017-18	2nd Half	37	16	16	32	7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Easy to say "he's just had one good season" but if you look a bit deeper you see that Aho has been on a developmental rocket ship. Where that peaks is anyone's guess.

Besides having superstar talent, Aho has a superstar work ethic and approach. When team's say "We want to build a strong organizational culture" they are saying they want to add guys like Sebastian Aho. That is a strong reason I think the Canes would want to lock up Aho for an eternity.

I'm a fanboy just like everyone else. I just don't think he's reached superstar level yet, but is certainly trending that direction. My original comment about contract length is less about him, and more that I'm not a huge fan of long contracts. 8 years is a long time for a team, and player to commit to each other, especially a 20 year old. I get the strategy, and logic behind trying to lock up a player of his caliber for as long as possible, but it comes with plenty of risk too.

 

[Joe McGrath]

NHL network is re-airing the draft and it just really reiterated that they tried their best to avoid discussing or doing anything with Carolina or Andrei Svechnikov. Really focused on Tkachuk and Quinn’s bromance and obviously as expected Dahlin.

Sorry I know that’s random. As far as Aho, I’d be willing to take that deal at $6mil for 8.

Wasn’t it TSN coverage and 3 and 4 were Montreal & Ottawa? Fans in Canada couldn’t give less of a f*** about the Canes or Svechnikov with those two teams up next.

 

[Lempo]

One way to look at it

Another way:
1) Aho was ranked as a 3rd+ round pick at the Draft
2) He then put up one of the best WJC performance of all time
3) He then finished one of the greatest U20 Finnish Elite League performances of all time and placed 2nd in MVP voting
4) He then made the NHL at 19 and has followed that up with:

		GP	G	A	Pts	+/-
2016-17	1st Half	41	10	13	23	0
2016-17	2nd Half	41	14	12	26	-1
2017-18	1st Half	41	13	20	33	-3
2017-18	2nd Half	37	16	16	32	7

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Easy to say "he's just had one good season" but if you look a bit deeper you see that Aho has been on a developmental rocket ship. Where that peaks is anyone's guess.

Besides having superstar talent, Aho has a superstar work ethic and approach. When team's say "We want to build a strong organizational culture" they are saying they want to add guys like Sebastian Aho. That is a strong reason I think the Canes would want to lock up Aho for an eternity.

A point of order because they take my passport away if I don't: his performance in WHC 2018 also was okay-ish.

 

[AeroFishOne]

Wasn’t it TSN coverage and 3 and 4 were Montreal & Ottawa? Fans in Canada couldn’t give less of a **** about the Canes or Svechnikov with those two teams up next.

Round one was NHL network. 2-7 was the northern neighbors I believe.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Wasn’t it TSN coverage and 3 and 4 were Montreal & Ottawa? Fans in Canada couldn’t give less of a **** about the Canes or Svechnikov with those two teams up next.

He might be referring to the American broadcast. I recall the folks at NBCSN really playing up that trio. To be fair, it was for a good reason. Tkachuk and Hughes were the Top 2 Americans available. Not only was Dahlin one of the most hyped prospects in recent memory, but also he was to be drafted by one of the network's best markets in Buffalo; there's a reason why awful Sabres teams are on nationally as much as they are.

 

[The Faulker 27]

A point of order because they take my passport away if I don't: his performance in WHC 2018 also was okay-ish.

That son of a bitch was on fire.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

That son of a ***** was on fire.

 

[bleedgreen]

I’d prefer six years on the contract vs eight as well. I hate the seven to eight year ones. I actually dislike anything past five.