News Around the League: 2017-2018 During and AFTER THE CUP

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I've got no problems with any of those finalists for the Calder. Besides, it's pretty much the who is going to lose to Barzal contest anyway.
 

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Funny thing about those three above :

None of them were in the playoffs while Nico was. What a useless award.
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Playoffs don't matter with the Calder. Nico had a great rookie season but it was an excellent year for rookies. I bet he finished 4th or 5th and there's no shame in that.
 
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If you took Barzal off the Islanders they would've had a very good shot at not only the league basement but also the worst point total in the post lockout point inflation era. From January on in virtually any game they played the only time they had sustained posession and weren't a complete tire fire was when him and his line were on the ice. It was literally the only thing that Dead Weight's coaching couldn't destroy, and that wasn't from lack of effort on his part.
 

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Yeah plus bad teams usually are gonna have the best rookies. We just happened to be a bad team last year that made a quantam (25+ point) leap this year.
Could have been more if Corey didn't hit that cold streak, or if Kinky stepped up earlier. Goaltending led directly to quite a few losses.
 

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Could have been more if Corey didn't hit that cold streak, or if Kinky stepped up earlier. Goaltending led directly to quite a few losses.

Or if those damn pesky Panthers stayed where they were in the standings(in the basement where they belonged), the Devils might have clinched earlier than they did.
 

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Or if those damn pesky Panthers stayed where they were in the standings(in the basement where they belonged), the Devils might have clinched earlier than they did.
Or we didn't get screwed by the refs a few times.

If Woody had gone right to the police...
 
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Still remember when Wild fans were convinced those contracts would put them over the hump.

Have they gotten any further than they had in the years prior? I guess it got them in the playoffs consistently, but that's about it. Perennial playoff doormats.
 

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I remember hearing he was a lame duck GM a while back (Lou apparently is too) and thinking that’s probably it for him.

What has he done there? A resume full of mediocrity. They make the playoffs every year, but go out in the first round and occasionally make the second round. They can never get out of their own way there and it’s on his watch.
 

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I remember hearing he was a lame duck GM a while back (Lou apparently is too) and thinking that’s probably it for him.

What has he done there? A resume full of mediocrity. They make the playoffs every year, but go out in the first round and occasionally make the second round. They can never get out of their own way there and it’s on his watch.

Plus two albatross contracts at this point for an aging defenseman and a forward who can't stay healthy.
 

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I remember hearing he was a lame duck GM a while back (Lou apparently is too) and thinking that’s probably it for him.

What has he done there? A resume full of mediocrity. They make the playoffs every year, but go out in the first round and occasionally make the second round. They can never get out of their own way there and it’s on his watch.

you're also describing the capitals
 

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Me: the Islanders can't possibly be a bigger embarrassment as an organization than they already are.

*sees they are looking at bringing in Slava Voynov assuming he can actually be let back into this country*

Me: I stand corrected.
 

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you're also describing the capitals
The Capitals make the second round more than them, but that’s where they die out. Their GM has only been in place since 2014, while Fletcher has been there since 2009.

The Caps GM will use his lifeline in dismissing Two-Round Trotz if they fall in the second round again or in the first.
 

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Very strange timing to fire Fletcher. The team is still good but most of their talent is old now. They need a proper transition plan but that likely won't happen now that they are replacing management. I can understand the move if the owner is interested in backing out and blowing up the team but he's going on about taking a step forward in competing for the cup.
 

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Very strange timing to fire Fletcher. The team is still good but most of their talent is old now. They need a proper transition plan but that likely won't happen now that they are replacing management. I can understand the move if the owner is interested in backing out and blowing up the team but he's going on about taking a step forward in competing for the cup.

i don't think he was fired- his contract was just not renewed. i think that's the reason for the semi-odd timing
 

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But isn't that pretty much de facto the same thing? The result is exactly the same in that he no longer has the job.

well, the result is the same, i was commenting on the timing. i'm saying if he had another year left on his contract they'd probably keep him
 

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i don't think he was fired- his contract was just not renewed. i think that's the reason for the semi-odd timing

That makes sense. He's probably not worth a long term contract and short term contracts could lead to bad self-preservation moves. Poor situation for him and the Wild.
 

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Still remember when Wild fans were convinced those contracts would put them over the hump.

Have they gotten any further than they had in the years prior? I guess it got them in the playoffs consistently, but that's about it. Perennial playoff doormats.

No they haven’t, and the contracts keep looking worse. Especially as Zach’s body breaks down ahead of schedule.

They still defend it though. I just don’t see how you can ever defend Zach’s contract. His style of play was always going to lead to an early physical break down, and he simply was never good enough as an individual player to warrant the few top years you would get from him at that price.
 

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Me: the Islanders can't possibly be a bigger embarrassment as an organization than they already are.

*sees they are looking at bringing in Slava Voynov assuming he can actually be let back into this country*

Me: I stand corrected.

We have some posters interested in the Devils being that kind of embarrassment.
 

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No they haven’t, and the contracts keep looking worse. Especially as Zach’s body breaks down ahead of schedule.

They still defend it though. I just don’t see how you can ever defend Zach’s contract. His style of play was always going to lead to an early physical break down, and he simply was never good enough as an individual player to warrant the few top years you would get from him at that price.

I'm glad we didn't get him with that deal. His game was never built to last for that long. Wasn't as cerebral and played too physical to last.
 
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