News and Notes XXII: Now With More Finnish!

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spockBokk

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I'll bet that our new found depth of RHD (Fora/Fox/Mckeown) that potentially can take over TVR's spot is playing into negotiations. If he wants more than the amount allocated to his "slot" by analytics or whatever, there's the option of much cheaper replacements to take that spot in the minds of the "braintrust."

I for one, hope we figure out this RFA mess. You can't trade them all if they ask for more than you're willing to pay, and TVR is an ideal 3rd pairing/PK guy.
 

Joe McGrath

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Anyone think that maybe Brindy isn’t as hung up on Defensemen playing on the “correct “ side? I know everyone says we need a LHD, but I think Pesce could probably play on his off side if need be.

Slavin-Hamilton
Pesce-Faulk
Fleury- TVR

Also, I think the whole “negotiations aren’t going well” stuff is just a smokescreen. Waddell makes it sound like signing these guys was too hard and thus had to be moved, so it puts the trade in a better light with some fans and media. The guys are RFAs and it’s only June. I’m not saying the trade was bad, just think the whole contract thing is a smokescreen.

Same with saying guys accept losing like mentioned above.

He might not be hung up with it, but I can’t remember in my lifetime a RH defenseman who played well on the opposite side.its far more common for a LH guy like Seidenberg to do it because no one plays on a team growing up that has too many RHD. I’d be very hesitant about playing a guy in a position he’s almost certainly never played in his life.
 

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He might not be hung up with it, but I can’t remember in my lifetime a RH defenseman who played well on the opposite side.its far more common for a LH guy like Seidenberg to do it because no one plays on a team growing up that has too many RHD. I’d be very hesitant about playing a guy in a position he’s almost certainly never played in his life.
Zubov? Niskanen?
 

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He might not be hung up with it, but I can’t remember in my lifetime a RH defenseman who played well on the opposite side.its far more common for a LH guy like Seidenberg to do it because no one plays on a team growing up that has too many RHD. I’d be very hesitant about playing a guy in a position he’s almost certainly never played in his life.

It’s objectively harder to play a defense position on the off side. There are about a bazillion interviews with coaches and players to verify that. Everything changes — pucks come up the boards at an awkward angle to your stick, you can’t see the entire ice while you’re puckhandling, you turn your back to the wall and invite a boarding situation every time you dump it in, you’re in a backhand position coming around your own net for a breakout, you’ve got to have an extra step defensively or a winger will blow right by you, you lose leverage on net-front battles and board scrums. Nearly everything other than the act of shooting the puck is harder.

This used to not matter as much, as long as you could find a very talented player to do it. But the game is becoming too split-second reactive. A guy who bobbles the puck even slightly at the point is going to either get steamrolled into the boards or turn it over for a high quality chance in the other direction. The split-second margin of error is gone, and so we’re seeing fewer coaches take that chance with every passing season.

Given that the majority of players, and the majority of quality defenders, are left handed, we’ll still occasionally see the odd LHD playing the right side. But moving an RHD (especially one with mediocre puck skills) to the left just isn’t going to happen. That’s not a matter of coaches being picky, it’s simply not a viable option in this league anymore.
 

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Why? Just because Darling wanted to eat his way to Raleigh last summer, doesn't mean Hutton will do the same.

Let’s be real here.... First it was Lack and his tacos & then Darling and his bbq. Khudobin? Wouldn’t surprise me if he was taken alive by the food scene here too.

We’re looking at around a 80% chance that Hutton or whatever new guy comes in will eat himself out of being a respectable goalie.
 

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Let’s be real here.... First it was Lack and his tacos & then Darling and his bbq. Khudobin? Wouldn’t surprise me if he was taken alive by the food scene here too.

We’re looking at around a 80% chance that Hutton or whatever new guy comes in will eat himself out of being a respectable goalie.

Or we could go the George Costanza Opposite route -- bring in a guy who's already fat.
 

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It’s objectively harder to play a defense position on the off side. There are about a bazillion interviews with coaches and players to verify that. Everything changes — pucks come up the boards at an awkward angle to your stick, you can’t see the entire ice while you’re puckhandling, you turn your back to the wall and invite a boarding situation every time you dump it in, you’re in a backhand position coming around your own net for a breakout, you’ve got to have an extra step defensively or a winger will blow right by you, you lose leverage on net-front battles and board scrums. Nearly everything other than the act of shooting the puck is harder.

This used to not matter as much, as long as you could find a very talented player to do it. But the game is becoming too split-second reactive. A guy who bobbles the puck even slightly at the point is going to either get steamrolled into the boards or turn it over for a high quality chance in the other direction. The split-second margin of error is gone, and so we’re seeing fewer coaches take that chance with every passing season.

Given that the majority of players, and the majority of quality defenders, are left handed, we’ll still occasionally see the odd LHD playing the right side. But moving an RHD (especially one with mediocre puck skills) to the left just isn’t going to happen. That’s not a matter of coaches being picky, it’s simply not a viable option in this league anymore.

This is a great breakdown Tarheel! Except coming around your own net; playing your offside puts you on your forehand not your backhand.

I play RD as a righty (obviously not at this level; at least until I get scouted off my beer league team) and hate playing on the left side for all of the above reasons.
 

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Why? Just because Darling wanted to eat his way to Raleigh last summer, doesn't mean Hutton will do the same.

Let’s be real here.... First it was Lack and his tacos & then Darling and his bbq. Khudobin? Wouldn’t surprise me if he was taken alive by the food scene here too.

We’re looking at around a 80% chance that Hutton or whatever new guy comes in will eat himself out of being a respectable goalie.

You know, this may be how we break all our goalies. Char-Grill alone could be a factor, and it's right down the road from the PNC
 

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That quote is laughable. You’d better come up with a goalie by three days after the start of free agency, the real uncertainty is what is the quality of that goalie? We could resign Ward right now, but that won’t be anything to get excited about.

I feel confident that we will have a goalie next season.
 
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