News and Notes XV: Get Well Soon Nestrasil!

[Finnish Jerk Train]

Yeah....somebody should tell them--that doesn't sound good. Too much like a side effect of the movie mentioned above.

You just tied together a very strange page 1. Well done.

Edit: Wait. You guys aren't talking about Canes members. Still works though.

 

[NotOpie]

On the parking, if full season, they remained the same ($10). But for the 22-game and 11-game plans they did go up by $1 and $2. Still cheaper than $15, but I can see it being an annoyance to the mini plan holders. They did seem to give more perks to a full season, which is understandable.

The star rating thing and the extra benefits/events will be interesting to see. My time (2002) and location (lower level sideline) got me a first star. woot woot.

I think full season ticket holders should get more perks. But I totally disagree with taking value away from partial STHs. They took post-game ticket trade in away from 11 game plan holders. That's just plain punitive....and frankly, stupid. The trades were always based on availability and they make more money by having me in the arena buying food and such.

 

[VAcaniac]

i watched this once:

no i am v afraid to have sex

This is the best movie ever.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

I think full season ticket holders should get more perks. But I totally disagree with taking value away from partial STHs. They took post-game ticket trade in away from 11 game plan holders. That's just plain punitive....and frankly, stupid. The trades were always based on availability and they make more money by having me in the arena buying food and such.

I somewhat agree here, but when I talked to my representative she said that as long as we swap out tickets before the start of the game we're going to miss, we're fine. Considering they tried to take away the extra seat vouchers from 11-game plan holders last year, I'll take this as an acceptable loss.

 

[RodTheBawd]

And they still charge the ****** "handling" fee which is true ******** especially considering the thing is almost all digital.

To be fair, going digital doesn't mean costs associated with tickets disappear, they're just shifted. They should rename "handling" to "digital processing fee" if that will make it easier to take for you

 

[caniac247]

I think full season ticket holders should get more perks. But I totally disagree with taking value away from partial STHs. They took post-game ticket trade in away from 11 game plan holders. That's just plain punitive....and frankly, stupid. The trades were always based on availability and they make more money by having me in the arena buying food and such.

I agree. I think the parking should have remained same for all plan holders as well as the ticket exchange. I mean, what if one planned to go the game, but came down with the flu or had a family emergency. So they can no longer trade in that unused ticket? Seems pretty stupid to me.

But overall i'm pretty happy. I thought for sure they were going to be insane and increase tickets. Glad that my price was frozen. Since i'm able to see the light at the end of the tunnel for the first time in a long time, I already put down my 30% deposit. Usually I make them wait until the last moment.

 

[RodTheBawd]

It would be harder for them to justify a ticket price increase when they don't spend the money they are saving on Staal and Ward's contracts next year

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why did you add the Rod?

 

[drganon]

Well, its official, we' re moving to Quebec. A guy on the boh board heard it from another guy.

 

[Caniac125330]

The Hockey news ranked our prospect pool fourth in the league, that grade includes 21 and under NHLers (So Lindholm, Pesce, Hanifin). Doesn't have TDL prospects factored in though.
Top 10
1. Aho
2. Fleury
3. PDG (wouldn't necessarily call him a prospect but think this was written awhile ago)
4. McGinn
5. Nedeljkovic
6. Carrick
7. McKeown
8. Roy
9. Wallmark
10. Foegele

 

[AMOK14]

Well, its official, we' re moving to Quebec. A guy on the boh board heard it from another guy.

It's the same guy that said that they would be getting a KHL team

 

[Wolfpuck]

Well, its official, we' re moving to Quebec. A guy on the boh board heard it from another guy.

"I know a guy."

**** me, that's airtight. It was nice knowing you, chums.

 

[Novacane]

"I know a guy."

**** me, that's airtight. It was nice knowing you, chums.

I don't get why that flies. It's no different than me saying "I know a guy who said Chicago might move". That completely leaves out the fact that the guy is a complete dumbass but hey, a guy said it!

 

[garnetpalmetto]

I don't get why that flies. It's no different than me saying "I know a guy who said Chicago might move". That completely leaves out the fact that the guy is a complete dumbass but hey, a guy said it!

Despite what some users on that board would like to believe there's a strong anti-Southern bias that not only exists but I think is tacitly encouraged. It's BS plain and simple.

 

[cptjeff]

Despite what some users on that board would like to believe there's a strong anti-Southern bias that not only exists but I think is tacitly encouraged. It's BS plain and simple.

Tacitly encouraged? Screw that, it's pretty openly encouraged. By people in power on that board.

 

[drganon]

At this point, I'm rooting against Quebec getting a team through any means now with how supporters have acted. The *****ing on boh would be excellent.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

Now we have somebody claiming their inlaws just so happen to be from Oak City, NC and they were at the 12/26 game and there were less than 5,000 people there. Gee, I wonder what people might have been doing on December 26th this year. It's not like there's a major holiday the day before that might cause people to travel, be out of town, entertain guests, and/or lock themselves in rooms with deep, dark brooding depression and thus affect attendance. Second, pardon my skepticism that your in-laws just so happen to be two of the residents of a town with a population of about 300 that's a 3-hour round-trip drive from Raleigh. For the sake of my blood pressure I'm staying far, far away from that forum for awhile. And yes, like drganon, the QCers can take a long walk off of a short pier for all I care. Here's hoping that *if* there's a two team expansion it's Vegas and Seattle and the only thing the QCers get to hear from Commissioner Bettman is

 

[drganon]

Now we have somebody claiming their inlaws just so happen to be from Oak City, NC and they were at the 12/26 game and there were less than 5,000 people there. Gee, I wonder what people might have been doing on December 26th this year. It's not like there's a major holiday the day before that might cause people to travel, be out of town, entertain guests, and/or lock themselves in rooms with deep, dark brooding depression and thus affect attendance. Second, pardon my skepticism that your in-laws just so happen to be two of the residents of a town with a population of about 300 that's a 3-hour round-trip drive from Raleigh. For the sake of my blood pressure I'm staying far, far away from that forum for awhile. And yes, like drganon, the QCers can take a long walk off of a short pier for all I care. Here's hoping that *if* there's a two team expansion it's Vegas and Seattle and the only thing the QCers get to hear from Commissioner Bettman is

I should be like you and stay away from boh, but I can't help it. I just can't let all the dumb s**t said there just fly.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Fellas...it's the Internet. Why do you give jokers like this credence? I don't understand...

 

[the halleJOKEL]

Fellas...it's the Internet. Why do you give jokers like this credence? I don't understand...

you wont be so high and mighty when the senators move to quebec city

i heard from a guy who knows a guy who overhearda thing at canadian tire

 

[Sens1Canes2]

you wont be so high and mighty when the senators move to quebec city

i heard from a guy who knows a guy who overhearda thing at canadian tire

Ok now I'm mad.

 

[RibFrabcus]

Karlsson to Canadian Tire [e4]

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Karlsson to Canadian Tire [e4]

you would probably get a LOT of cdn tire money for him

 

[RibFrabcus]

you would probably get a LOT of cdn tire money for him

At least a 8.5B oil change and a tire rotation project.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Wasn't a burn at all. It was facts.

Here it is, for those who missed it:

Why the Carolina Hurricanes won't move anytime soon:

1. Attendance has found its bottom. It's extremely unlikely that attendance will go lower than it's at right now. When the product on the ice improves, so will the revenue (although most of that will go back into the team.)

2. Gale Force Holdings owns both the team (Hurricanes Hockey LP) and the arena management company (Gale Force Sports and Entertainment). At the current attendance, Gale Force Holdings is still comfortably break-even, because they take a gigantic cut of every event that happens at the PNC Arena. Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/288745589/Gale-Force-Holdings

3. The PNC Arena hosts 1.5 million guests every year, and that number continues to rise. Source: https://www.thepncarena.com/arena_info

4. Ticket prices also continue to rise at PNC, and people keep paying. Why? Because the Raleigh-Durham area has among the highest disposable income per capita anywhere in the world. Source: http://www.citylab.com/housing/2011/12/us-cities-with-most-spend-after-paying-housing/778/

5. Even better, Gale Force Holdings takes a huge chunk of the revenue, while the state of North Carolina pays most of the bills through a public-private arrangement called the Centennial Authority. Source: http://www.centennialauthority.com/history/

6. The goal of a business is not to make money, because then you have to pay taxes. No, the goal is to come as close to break-even as possible and to appreciate the value of the business itself. Gale Force Holdings carefully ensures that they are near break-even business. In 2015 there was a small profit, offset by a small loss due to depreciation of assets. Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/288745589/Gale-Force-Holdings

The above arrangement was *exactly* why Peter Karmanos moved to North Carolina in the first place. The company, Gale Force Holdings, is constructed to be largely immune to the goings-on of the hockey club. It's good for the business when the team wins, of course, but business is business, and Gale Force Holdings is doing very good business indeed, because North Carolina is one of the best places in the world right now to do business.