EverettMike
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And Orsillo tweeting that out the night of the ceremony doesn't? Nobody looks good here.
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And Orsillo tweeting that out the night of the ceremony doesn't? Nobody looks good here.
EverettMike
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The So desperately need someone to say, "I don't care what your intentions are, it's going to come across poorly." As this thread demonstrates, people will always apply malice to them even when it's just incompetence. They shoot themselves in the foot way too often, and for things they should have easily avoided.
I imagine it wasn't spite so much as Sox management wanting to spare O'Brien (and themselves) the embarrassment of having Orsillo being greeted with such enthusiasm by the fans that he would almost upstage the tribute itself. (That isn't a defense of what Sox management did.) Maybe O"Brien's dread of an Orsillo upstaging helped put him "under the weather." Also, we still to this day don't know why Orsillo was fired. Maybe they had justifiable reasons, maybe not.
BigBadBruins7708
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If this self serving piece of BS/throwing under the bus doesn't sum up why this ownership sucks so hard, nothing does.
Of course they're acting like Orsillo didnt have a job to do last night in San Diego.
The cherry on top is the "video message might not fight"...BULLS**T. They really expect people to believe that tripe, that you cant go "and please direct your attention to the video board for a message from Don Orsillo"
edit: post above mine nailed it. they didn't want Fenway to erupt for Orsillo
Therick67
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Don't insult garbage like that...
Number8
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I agree. Although Don O was Remy's friend. My guess is he was angry at Red Sox and/or NESN jerking him around on a night that he thought was an opportunity to share his love for his friend. I can relate to that emotion (if I'm right) causing him to react in a way that, maybe, if he'd taken some time he would not.
I guess for me it's a trend thing. I've always like Orsillo and have never seen anything that makes me thing less of him. NESN and Red Sox? That's a different thing.
Still, bottom line is your bottom line. Nobody looks good here and something that should have been about Remy is clouded. My friend in the UK would say "they couldn't find a shag in a barrel of fannies".
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Somewhere I read that NESN had instructed Don that he was required to take an in-season unpaid leave. He didn't want to and protested it. He didn't want the time off, and wanted to keep working. He apparently took it to the top and they were not happy.
It seemed like some cost cutting measure by NESN. Similar to Jack and Brick not traveling with the B's.
It has been 2-3 years since I read it, and don't remember the source.
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Here's something I just have the most difficult time reconciling:
I grew up watching the Harrington/Duquette teams that were always a few pieces short and massively dysfunctional while opposing fans chanted 1918 everywhere we went and the Yankees beat us in humiliating fashion in and out.
When they got sold in 2002, if you told me that the new ownership would turn the Red Sox into a perpetual contender with 4 championships over 14 years after none in the previous 86, I'd think I'd worship the ground these guys walk on.
But Henry and Werner are complete rats, some of the most unlikable people in the business. They're absolutely repugnant in how they use their media connections to do hatchet jobs on everyone that leaves the team, how they've let homegrown franchise legends like Lester and Mookie go by lowballing them and then poisoning the pot against them in the Globe. What they did to Terry Francona and Don Orsillo were some of the worst things possible.
But 4 World Series after the curse because of the investments they made and culture instituted by the ownership group, how can you ask for more? But they're assholes and I hate them. I don't know how I'm supposed to feel.
I grew up watching the Harrington/Duquette teams that were always a few pieces short and massively dysfunctional while opposing fans chanted 1918 everywhere we went and the Yankees beat us in humiliating fashion in and out.
When they got sold in 2002, if you told me that the new ownership would turn the Red Sox into a perpetual contender with 4 championships over 14 years after none in the previous 86, I'd think I'd worship the ground these guys walk on.
But Henry and Werner are complete rats, some of the most unlikable people in the business. They're absolutely repugnant in how they use their media connections to do hatchet jobs on everyone that leaves the team, how they've let homegrown franchise legends like Lester and Mookie go by lowballing them and then poisoning the pot against them in the Globe. What they did to Terry Francona and Don Orsillo were some of the worst things possible.
But 4 World Series after the curse because of the investments they made and culture instituted by the ownership group, how can you ask for more? But they're assholes and I hate them. I don't know how I'm supposed to feel.
Jerry Remy honored in Boston | 04/20/2022
Red Sox Hall of Famers, current players, family members and fans honor the life of the late and great Jerry Remy during pregame
McGarnagle
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| Great Guy | A-hole | |
| Lots of championships | Bob Kraft | John Henry |
| Less championships | Wyc Grousbeck | Jeremy Jacobs |
Note to Red Sox & NESN —- when youre in a hole stop digging ffs.
The biggest mistake the Red Sox made was not even mentioning Don by name last night. Just have TC say something like 'Watching back in San Diego tonight is Don Orsillo' and it's covered.
I think it is safe to assume Orsillo got a lot of tweets about his absence and he finally responded.
I think it is safe to assume Orsillo got a lot of tweets about his absence and he finally responded.
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BigBadBruins7708
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Hell, the game hadnt started yet in San Diego, they couldn't show him on Skype or Teams for 30 seconds?
Ludwig Fell Down
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Yet another example of MLB owners being in synch with the fan base. They really have their finger on the pulse.
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Just a terrible move to not take the high ground in whatever the dispute was and include or show the video. I think the fans would have been moved by the content and its sincerity, and it would have helped Orsillo and fans in the grieving process through honoring his long time friend. Missed opportunity to do the right thing. Awful.
Chad Finn points out that NESN included Orsillo in a special on Remy, and makes the case that Orsillo's tape not getting played was more a miscommunication than a snub, since in the end nobody's tapes got played during the ceremony. Fijnn argues the Sox should have done somethig at the ceremony to acknowledge the Orsillo-Remy connection, but I now think it was cluelessness more than anything petty or vndictive.
www.bostonglobe.com
Here’s why Don Orsillo wasn’t part of the Jerry Remy tribute - The Boston Globe
The Red Sox were caught in a maelstrom of backlash after Remy’s former play-by-play partner on NESN tweeted that the team did not use his video message.
www.bostonglobe.com
Shaughnessy is pretty dead-on
▪ It’s been a third-rail issue since the hypersensitive Red Sox ham-handedly fired Don Orsillo in 2015, so here goes …
1. Orsillo should have taken the day off and come to Boston when the Red Sox invited him to be part of honoring Jerry Remy Wednesday night at Fenway.
2. In Orsillo’s absence, the Sox should have broken their “rules” and presented Orsillo’s video tribute as part of the ceremony.
3. Orsillo, whom we love, was out of bounds tweeting about the snub on the night of Remy’s tribute. It made the story about Orsillo instead of the late Remy.
▪ It’s been a third-rail issue since the hypersensitive Red Sox ham-handedly fired Don Orsillo in 2015, so here goes …
1. Orsillo should have taken the day off and come to Boston when the Red Sox invited him to be part of honoring Jerry Remy Wednesday night at Fenway.
2. In Orsillo’s absence, the Sox should have broken their “rules” and presented Orsillo’s video tribute as part of the ceremony.
3. Orsillo, whom we love, was out of bounds tweeting about the snub on the night of Remy’s tribute. It made the story about Orsillo instead of the late Remy.
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