Proposal: MTL & ARIZONA

[Lockin17]

Habs could really use a real LD to play with Weber
Arizona couls use a top 6 LW +

MTL : Tatar (resigned 5mil x 5 ) + Chariot (replace OEL)+ 1rs 2021
For
Arizona : OEL

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[BigDaddyLurch]

OEL makes too much money unless someone like Weber goes the other way...

 

[A Loyal Dog]

You got yourself a deal. I like OEL!

 

[ole ole]

You got yourself a deal. I like OEL!

So who do we protect come expansion time.?

 

[rt]

OEL has a full NMC and was only willing to waive for Boston or Vancouver. If he were to expand that to Montreal, then an extended Tatar, Chairot, and a 1st is quite a good offer. Having said that, I’d probably insist on Kaiden Guhle instead of that 1st. Otherwise I’d look to see if someone else could do better on an offer including a D prospect.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

So who do we protect come expansion time.?

Petry, OEL, don’t care who else we save.

 

[McJedi]

Habs could really use a real LD to play with Weber
Arizona couls use a top 6 LW +

MTL : Tatar (resigned 5mil x 5 ) + Chariot (replace OEL)+ 1rs 2021
For
Arizona : OEL

If I’m Arizona, I’m a hard pass on Tatar but I snag Danault, Mete and Caufield in this deal. Doesn’t matter if you resign Danault. It’s about getting younger.

if Habs have an expiring contract to add, by all means, but I put a zero value on it. It’s just filler.

Tatar at $5Mm for 5 years all in his 30s sounds like a nightmare contract. Woof. That’s the worst part of your proposal by far.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

If I’m Arizona, I’m a hard pass on Tatar but I snag Danault, Mete and Caufield in this deal. Doesn’t matter if you resign Danault. It’s about getting younger.

How will the Habs work their cap issues?

 

[McJedi]

How will the Habs work their cap issues?

Add an expiring contract of your choice. It’s just filler to make the cap math work. Value of that to Arizona is 0.

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Add an expiring contract of your choice. It’s just filler to make the cap math work. Value of that to Arizona is 0.

Carey Price

Probably 1 of Chiarot/Edmundson (with OEL one of them becomes useless) + Byron.

 

[Pierre Lebrun]

Done. I'd throw in a Paul Byron sweetener as well and for cap purposes if needed (didn't check fully).

 

[Habs10025]

Habs could really use a real LD to play with Weber
Arizona couls use a top 6 LW +

MTL : Tatar (resigned 5mil x 5 ) + Chariot (replace OEL)+ 1rs 2021
For
Arizona : OEL

Montreal reject this trade.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Montreal reject this trade.

I think they strongly consider actually.

 

[Habs10025]

I think they strongly consider actually.

No .

 

[MayDayMayDay]

No from Arizona. I want more futures for OEL if we move him.

 

[HabsAddict]

Where are we going to fit a 8.25 million dollar defenseman? Under the bench? Is Weber going the other way?

Am I missing something on his scoring or is 8.25 million the going rate for 9 assists so far? Or 30 points in 66 games last year?

Oh wait, he's only 24...not.

I like a lot of defenseman, a lot of trades, a lot of free lunches.....but reality is that there is a cap and we don't have a prospect tree growing top grade prospects.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Nobody touches that contract given how he has been performing, esp. with Covid and the flat cap situation...

It would mean that MTL would pay as of 2021-2022, 14m for goalkeepers, 26m for 4Ds (assume 3 ELCs, so 2.5m for your D core), which leaves 40m to sign 12/13 forwards not as if the forward group was so good as it is... But wait Gallagher is paid 6m+, Anderson 5.5, Drouin 5.5, Toffoli 4, Byron 3.4, Evans 0.8, so that only 15.5m remain for 6 forwards, incl. 1C, 2C, 3C, 1 LW, 3 LW, 4RW, good luck !

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Can't see AZ giving Tatar a 25 million dollar deal

 

[Whalers Fan]

If I’m Arizona, I’m a hard pass on Tatar but I snag Danault, Mete and Caufield in this deal. Doesn’t matter if you resign Danault. It’s about getting younger.

if Habs have an expiring contract to add, by all means, but I put a zero value on it. It’s just filler.

Tatar at $5Mm for 5 years all in his 30s sounds like a nightmare contract. Woof. That’s the worst part of your proposal by far.

The Habs are not giving up Caufield in a package for OEL.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Habs could really use a real LD to play with Weber
Arizona couls use a top 6 LW +

MTL : Tatar (resigned 5mil x 5 ) + Chariot (replace OEL)+ 1rs 2021
For
Arizona : OEL

There is no way in hades I give a 31 year old a Tatar a 5 year deal. The North is playing no defense (other than the Leafs) and Tatar is trending in the wrong direction.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

Where are we going to fit a 8.25 million dollar defenseman? Under the bench? Is Weber going the other way?

Am I missing something on his scoring or is 8.25 million the going rate for 9 assists so far? Or 30 points in 66 games last year?

Oh wait, he's only 24...not.

I like a lot of defenseman, a lot of trades, a lot of free lunches.....but reality is that there is a cap and we don't have a prospect tree growing top grade prospects.

He's only played 12 games this year...

 

[HabsAddict]

Nobody touches that contract given how he has been performing, esp. with Covid and the flat cap situation...

It would mean that MTL would pay as of 2021-2022, 14m for goalkeepers, 26m for 4Ds (assume 3 ELCs, so 2.5m for your D core), which leaves 40m to sign 12/13 forwards not as if the forward group was so good as it is... But wait Gallagher is paid 6m+, Anderson 5.5, Drouin 5.5, Toffoli 4, Byron 3.4, Evans 0.8, so that only 15.5m remain for 6 forwards, incl. 1C, 2C, 3C, 1 LW, 3 LW, 4RW, good luck !

We are the Habs, they should be honoured to play for us for free......or not.

All these trades including Ekholm don't take us over the top. They just make us a little bit better while we sacrifice getting a lot better by developing players like Guhle and Caufield.

Given covid, given a hard cap, given a really good prospect pool, just stay the course.

 

[Treb]

We are the Habs, they should be honoured to play for us for free......or not.

All these trades including Ekholm don't take us over the top. They just make us a little bit better while we sacrifice getting a lot better by developing players like Guhle and Caufield.

Given covid, given a hard cap, given a really good prospect pool, just stay the course.

Ekholm would definitely give us a great boost and a chance to beat the North. Whether we would go farther than the ECF is another question though.

 

[glenbuis]

Ekholm would definitely give us a great boost and a chance to beat the North. Whether we would go farther than the ECF is another question though.

And whatever assets it costs , most of them can be recovered next year if it doesn’t work out . He’d stabilize the whole backend .

 

[glenbuis]

We are the Habs, they should be honoured to play for us for free......or not.

All these trades including Ekholm don't take us over the top. They just make us a little bit better while we sacrifice getting a lot better by developing players like Guhle and Caufield.

Given covid, given a hard cap, given a really good prospect pool, just stay the course.

Nobody said guhle or caufield would have to be used .