Confirmed with Link: Moore/Kesler from Ducks for Dadonov and pick -- disputed; UPD voided

[LadyStanley]

No resolution, yet.

 

[CupInSIX]

People are saying he might still waive his NT to go to Anaheim to make the deal legit.

 

[IceNeophyte]

People are saying he might still waive his NT to go to Anaheim to make the deal legit.

What people? Ken Boelke?

 

[Boris Zubov]

What was their plan to clear enough space for this even if the trade wasn't voided?

 

[CupInSIX]

What people? Ken Boelke?

Did he?
Whatever Ken says, the opposite usually happens.

 

[The Duck Knight]

What was their plan to clear enough space for this even if the trade wasn't voided?

One of Smith/Lehner/Pacioretty would have to be out for the rest of the season.

 

[Boris Zubov]

One of Smith/Lehner/Pacioretty would have to be out for the rest of the season.

Agreed, but it seems like more than one.

 

[theslatcher]

What was their plan to clear enough space for this even if the trade wasn't voided?

Currently got 30 players on the roster(33 with LTIRers), FWIW. Martinez could've been activated(he has been skating for a while now). Stone hasn't skated, so doubt he's close.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Agreed, but it seems like more than one.

Well Pacioretty + the Dadonov trade would have been enough for both. And indications are Lehner is closest to coming back. Smart money to me says Patches is the guy with the most serious injury.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Currently got 30 players on the roster(33 with LTIRers), FWIW. Martinez could've been activated(he has been skating for a while now). Stone hasn't skated, so doubt he's close.

Ok, but one of the McGMs said he was slated to return before the playoffs...

 

[Boris Zubov]

Well Pacioretty + the Dadonov trade would have been enough for both. And indications are Lehner is closest to coming back. Smart money to me says Patches is the guy with the most serious injury.

Are Smith & McNabb done for the year?

 

[The Duck Knight]

Ok, but one of the McGMs said he was slated to return before the playoffs...

SinBin misreported the quote just a bit and Kelly worded it really weirdly. He didn't say Stone would return he said "if it's possible, it will happen". Let me find the exact quote here.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Are Smith & McNabb done for the year?

Who knows?

All I know is Smith has a knee injury and Lehner is closer than the rest. That's all that's been reported.

 

[LadyStanley]

Golden Knights receive ruling on Evgenii Dadonov trade to Ducks

The trade that would have sent Golden Knights forward Evgenii Dadonov to the Anaheim Ducks was invalidated by the NHL on Wednesday because he has a limited no-trade clause.

www.reviewjournal.com

Trade to be voided.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Who knows?

All I know is Smith has a knee injury and Lehner is closer than the rest. That's all that's been reported.

This is a mess. They're going to play with a 18 man roster.

 

[The Duck Knight]

This is a mess. They're going to play with a 18 man roster.

Pretty sure that won't be necessary. Emergency call ups don't count against the cap. They also don't make a difference. Either way it's like 1 legit D pair and 1 legit forward line.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Did he?
Whatever Ken says, the opposite usually happens.

I said that sarcastically

 

[IceNeophyte]

Pretty sure that won't be necessary. Emergency call ups don't count against the cap. They also don't make a difference. Either way it's like 1 legit D pair and 1 legit forward line.

And it's moot anyway with Vegas effectively out of the payoff picture. If front office and coaching staff survive the Summer, I'm done.

 

[The Duck Knight]

And it's moot anyway with Vegas effectively out of the payoff picture. If front office and coaching staff survive the Summer, I'm done.

You might have to find a new team then because I wouldn't be shocked at all to see everyone survive this season because of the injuries. Like it or not most teams that have had the injury issues Vegas has had never even sniff the playoffs. Teams that have these kinds of injuries end up in the running for 1st Overall Picks.

The one thing that might doom everyone from Mcphee on down is if it's revealed they were 100% at fault in this Dadonov f*** up. That's the most likely scenario in my mind that leads to a full house cleaning by Foley.

 

[IceNeophyte]

You might have to find a new team then because I wouldn't be shocked at all to see everyone survive this season because of the injuries. Like it or not most teams that have had the injury issues Vegas has had never even sniff the playoffs. Teams that have these kinds of injuries end up in the running for 1st Overall Picks.

The one thing that might doom everyone from Mcphee on down is if it's revealed they were 100% at fault in this Dadonov f*** up. That's the most likely scenario in my mind that leads to a full house cleaning by Foley.

Trading for Eichel was a good move at a very bad time, and there should be some responsibility for that.

 

[LadyStanley]

Official

 

[Vegan Knight]

As long as one player making 5 million or more (who isn't Lehner) is on LTIR I think they can just skate under. They would need to do big gymnastics to do it though.

They would need to have a minimum 20 roster, send down the AHL players and waive Dadonov, one of Hutton/Coghlan, and two of Carrier/Janmark/Amadio.

If anyone got hurt they'd need to play with less than 18 skaters and possibly take advantage of emergency call-ups.

There's only 16 games left, 38 days. I think if they accept making the playoffs is longer odds at this point then they should be able to avoid going over this year.

Then just buyout Dadonov and trade Brossoit in the summer as @MGK has suggested before. Decide between Smith and Pacioretty and probably just sign the RFAs, get the new rookies to Henderson and have a relatively quiet offseason.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

So uh

Dadonov + Cormier for the Weber contract, anyone?

Would you mind explaining how taking on the contract for a LTIR'd player benefits Vegas? I do not understand the business ($$) side of the deal.

 

[CupInSIX]

Would you mind explaining how taking on the contract for a LTIR'd player benefits Vegas? I do not understand the business ($$) side of the deal.

It doesn't - but it helps Montreal move his dead cap, which is why they would insist Vegas take it back.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

It doesn't - but it helps Montreal move his dead cap, which is why they would insist Vegas take it back.

Oh. But they are still getting a useful player in Dadanov, no? And it's not like they are making the playoffs this season. Couldn't taking on Dadanov be a good option for most non-playoff teams anyway? He can still play on the roster next season for them and be an asset at the TDL.

He only seems to have a 10 team NTC so that still leaves 6 non-playoff teams to make the trade to.