Montreal worst NHL city to play in?

[Team_Spirit]

Why do you think so many players have their own charities/businesses?

Tax write-off.

This is old, and pre-tax write off :

 

[Hackett]

Honestly, I wouldn't want to play for any other Canadian city than Vancouver or Montreal. Vancouver because I've not dont have to worry about snow, and Montreal just because I love the habs.

Other than that, I'd prefer a warm place year round and a committed to winning organization. There's a few to choose from today.

 

[Braun]

They should do like in Europe an negotiate contracts based on Net income. End of story.

 

[Swarez]

Huh? I'm not sure that's how it works.

Usually by Canadian tax laws, 1) where you live 6 months + 1 day is where you get taxed. That's why there's a lot of high class workers that live on tax free islands and countries and come back to Québec to sign contracts, then leave again.

2) Business trips are a part of any worker's mandatory duties, you don't pay taxes from every place you get sent off too.

Usually you pay taxes where you earn money, except with things that are in treaties.

If you draw a salary from a canadian company, and live in he islands you still owe taxes to Canada. It's investments where you will have large savings.

CA now has higher income taxes than anywhere in Canada for millionaires, alberta has lowest taxes in NA for millionaires. The article also fails to mention the Medicare add on 2-3%, you pay if you reside in USA.

I'm a CA, work for big firm and have done work for blue jays with my firm

 

[Swarez]

Why do you think so many players have their own charities/businesses?

Tax write-off.

This is old, and pre-tax write off :

This is very very very invalid today.

 

[OnTheRun]

Montreal worst NHL city...When it's tax time. Sure.

Not sure how much it really matter though.

If you look at the Rangers, there situation is much closer to Montreal than say Dallas or Tampa. Yet the Rangers are stupidly popular with the UFAs and everyone and their grandmothers is willing to waive their NTC/NMC to go there.


I can't picture any players using taxes as a tie breaker between Calgary and Chicago, for exemple.

 

[lou4gehrig]

Tax rate is 70% in Sweden. Always worse somewhere else.

 

[canadiensnation]

Why Montreal is the worst NHL city...when it's tax time

But the Canadiens, like some other NHL teams north of the border, face a troublesome obstacle when it comes to negotiating with players: Revenue Canada. Many players on NHL teams in Quebec and Ontario pay the highest combined federal and provincial/state income tax rate in the NHL, a TSN study has found.

Canadiens defencemen Andrei Markov and P.K. Subban will each make $7 million on paper this year. But after handing over 49.7 per cent of their check to the taxman, they'll each bring home just $3.5 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/westhead-why-montreal-is-the-worst-nhl-city-when-it-s-tax-time-1.106798

 

[Adamcrazy3]

Why do you think so many players have their own charities/businesses?

Tax write-off.

Even if they have their own charities/businesses, they can't write off much from their salaries except if they make donations to the charities but then they'd be transferring their money into the charity. And if they want to get that money back, they'll have to pay taxes on it again so not very useful.

An individual earning income from an employer can't escape much taxes unfortunately so they'll end up paying lots of taxes.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Depends if you like Strip clubs or not.....

That's tax deductible!

All things being equal, sure, but living in a city as big, as safe, as cultural and as hockey-mad as Montreal makes up for a lot of things.

Dallas has nothing on Montreal, neither does Minnesota or Calgary or Detroit or whatever.

A winning organization is the biggest draw.

It's great indeed.

As long as you don't mind the odd referendum here or there...

Want to live in one of the safest, cleanest, most cultural cities in the world? A city that loves hockey and loves life?

Pay up.

You anti-taxers forget that.

Edit: I've lived in a tax-less city, it sucked. I've also been living in NYC, not as high taxes but expensive as hell, also has many flaws.

Montreal is a special, special city.

Don't forget the smoked meat, nightlife, beautiful women and it's difficult to walk into a bad restaurant.

Tax rate is 70% in Sweden. Always worse somewhere else.

Take North Korea for example...

 

[Hackett]

Just heard ray Ferraro on the radio, and he said his favorite road city by far was Montreal.

He told a story back in his whaler days when he had just experienced beating Montreal for the first time at the forum. Anyways, back in the dressing room, the guys were going crazy because of the win. Then, the whalers gm came into the room, and informed the players that they have been snowed in, and that they have to stay overnight in montreal instead of flying out.

At this point, the room got even louder with elation. Dave semenko gets up and says: I've won a bunch of cups in Edmonton, and even I don't remember a room being this happy and noisy before!

I know its a different story to visit Montreal as opposed to live in Montreal, but I got a kick out of that story.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Just heard ray Ferraro on the radio, and he said his favorite road city by far was Montreal.

Many, many others have said the same thing. Great city to see where fame and deep pockets can take you.

 

[Bullsmith]

The TSN article implies that Markov, Subban and Price all declare full residence in Quebec. That's pretty cool, if true.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Worst city indeed, the players can't even get a proper night's sleep.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I think anyone in the area would know what taxes are like, especially in Ontario and Quebec.

I know if I were a hockey player, my preference would be to play in Florida because of the taxes alone.

 

[FF de Mars]

Jay Baruchel is so creepy !

 

[Seb]

It's called Socialism, you are paying for corruption and for people to not work. You are paying for students to protest on the street, you are paying for people to work seasonally but collect unemployment. I'm shocked that people are bringing this up, I thought everyone already knew this.

That's not what socialism means, but ok.

 

[Surge101]

50%.... wow.

 

[Bob Cole]

and some people would like to raise taxes even more

To play in front of 8k in Florida or 21k passionate fans every night...tough choice

 

[yoyo999]

I think it works like this in Canada:

Non resident players playing for US teams and who reside in the US (live > 183days) pay taxes in the US and do not pay Canadian taxes. (Patrick Kane)

Non resident players playing for Canadian teams pay taxes in the USA and Canada based on the percentage of games played in each country. (Max Pacioretty)

Canadian residents playing for Canadian teams pay Canadian taxes. (Pk Subban)

Canadian resident players playing for US teams pay taxes in the USA and Canada based on the percentage of games played in each country. (????? Who would do this?)

Crosby? I believe he owns a home in Halifax and lives there in the off-season.

 

[CupInSIX]

Yeah but what do you get with that? What are the property taxes and values of homes? Are market values going up? What are the crime rates? How's the traffic? What's the night life like? Do you have to take the subway to get to the arena? Would you have to commute? Is it a suitable area for your wife and kids?

and most importantly how are the titty bars

 

[Surge101]

and some people would like to raise taxes even more

To play in front of 8k in Florida or 21k passionate fans every night...tough choice

I live in South Florida. If the Panthers put out a good product, fans will show up. Hockey is probably a tougher sell than football or basketball, but people will show up if they are winning. I guess that's the definition of "fair weather" but that's just how it is here. Panthers have been bad aside from the 2011 run for a long time.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Crosby? I believe he owns a home in Halifax and lives there in the off-season.

Outside town here in Grand Lake, yeah. Nice place, after spending however many millions on his landscaping.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I think anyone in the area would know what taxes are like, especially in Ontario and Quebec.

I know if I were a hockey player, my preference would be to play in Florida because of the taxes alone.

I'm quite happy living in Canada. And that wouldn't change if I was a pro hockey player.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

Yup. Personnally I don't mind paying taxes if it means that social services are offered to people who need it most. The use of these taxes made by the government is one hell of another problem though...

Montreal is just a great place to live in, whether you pay a lot of taxes or not. So... I don't really see the point of this thread. I'm sure many plaers would love to play for the habs, because if you perform in here, you'll be a city hero more than anyone can imagine.

That's what a real hockey city is all about.

I agree with this post!

It's called Socialism, you are paying for corruption and for people to not work. You are paying for students to protest on the street, you are paying for people to work seasonally but collect unemployment. I'm shocked that people are bringing this up, I thought everyone already knew this.

Go to bed, grampa.