Value of: Montreal/ Ottawa

[Sureves]

Don’t tell me it won’t happen and how unlikely it is to happen. I know all this I’m Just wondering what people think

Too bad because it's just not a trade Ottawa would make. Anything I proposed would seem like laughable overpayment from a Habs perspective.

 

[SPF6ty9]

Too bad because it's just not a trade Ottawa would make. Anything I proposed would seem like laughable overpayment from a Habs perspective.

Bingo. Ball would be completely in Ottawa's court. Would need a Herschel Walker like haul for me to even consider a deal. "Fair Value" would be out the window.

 

[ole ole]

Too bad because it's just not a trade Ottawa would make. Anything I proposed would seem like laughable overpayment from a Habs perspective.

You mean laughable overpayment from a anyone's perspective.
It couldn't be any more laughable than
3OA + Caufield + Romanov + 2021 1st.

 

[Sureves]

You mean laughable overpayment from a anyone's perspective.
It couldn't be any more laughable than
3OA + Caufield + Romanov + 2021 1st.

I don’t think I’d do that deal.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Let’s turn this around. If the Habs win the lottery- what would the Sens fans is fair value for the pick assuming the get the 3rd and 5th picks.

 

[Sureves]

Let’s turn this around. If the Habs win the lottery- what would the Sens fans is fair value for the pick assuming the get the 3rd and 5th picks.

1st for 3rd + 5th

 

[Junohockeyfan]

1st for 3rd + 5th

and no. See how this works?

 

[TkachukMyAho]

Molson, Bergevin and the 3rd for the 1st.

Seeing how your owner can actually make payroll, I'd consider this. I'd request Bergevin be removed from the package however.

 

[Stuzchuk]

2020 1st, Romanov and Domi... lets make a deal

 

[Sureves]

and no. See how this works?

That the 1st overall is extremely valuable to the point where it is basically untradeable? Yes that was my point.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

That the 1st overall is extremely valuable to the point where it is basically untradeable? Yes that was my point.

then end thread. Because it was a pointless thread to start with.

 

[Sureves]

then end thread. Because it was a pointless thread to start with.

I feel like you're trying to argue with me despite me saying the exact same thing you are saying. Bizarre.

 

[ole ole]

I don’t think I’d do that deal.

As a Hab fan i know i wouldn't do that deal.

 

[Video Coach]

When this does happen (moving up to get no. 1) it's not 3OA + A prospect, + A prospect, +++

It's usually 3OA + 2nd or 3rd rounder...

Recent history...

1999

The trades: On draft day, the Canucks trade no. 4 pick and two third-rounders to the Lightning for the no. 1 pick. Then the Canucks send the no. 1 pick to the Thrashers for the no. 2 pick and a third-rounder.

2002

The trade: The Blue Jackets trade the no. 3 pick and the right to swap picks in 2003 to Florida for the no. 1 pick.

2003

The trade: The Panthers trade the no. 1 pick and a third-rounder to the Penguins for the no. 3 pick, a second-rounder, and Mikael Samuelsson.

Now I will say this, in all the above cases, I don't think there was as clear-cut a no. 1 as there is this year. But I don't get the idea that if a trade is going to happen it's going to be a Lindros-like return.

 

[sens13]

When this does happen (moving up to get no. 1) it's not 3OA + A prospect, + A prospect, +++

It's usually 3OA + 2nd or 3rd rounder...

Recent history...



Now I will say this, in all the above cases, I don't think there was as clear-cut a no. 1 as there is this year. But I don't get the idea that if a trade is going to happen it's going to be a Lindros-like return.

That's why this year is different. Suggesting that it would take a 2nd rounder is laughable.

No one is asking for a Lindros return but the point is no one is going to be trading down in this draft unless it's a massive over payment. There's no fair trade to be made because of the difference between 1/3. Your talking about 2 different tiers of players. The team with pick 1 has no incentive to trade down to a lower tier unless their getting a massive package.

 

[Video Coach]

That's why this year is different. Suggesting that it would take a 2nd rounder is laughable.

No one is asking for a Lindros return but the point is no one is going to be trading down in this draft unless it's a massive over payment. There's no fair trade to be made because of the difference between 1/3. Your talking about 2 different tiers of players. The team with pick 1 has no incentive to trade down to a lower tier unless their getting a massive package.

I dunno, I see a lot of 3OA + Romanov + Caufield/Suzuki + 2021 1st...

Probably not going to happen at all but if it does it won't be for 4-5 A pieces.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I dunno, I see a lot of 3OA + Romanov + Caufield/Suzuki + 2021 1st...

Probably not going to happen at all but if it does it won't be for 4-5 A pieces.

It pretty much would if Ottawa has that top pick.

We have a ton of prospects in the system. What we need, is that home run franchise player. Nothing Montreal has qualifies as a franchise level piece for us. Therefore, that proposal you have, while it is an over payment on paper, is the MINIMUM Ottawa would accept to gift Montreal a franchise player (and a francophone one at that) for the next 15 years.

Whoever owns that first overall pick is in the drivers seat, and won't part with it for anything less than a massive windfall.

 

[OmniSens]

It won't happen. Even Eugene Melnyk isn't dumb enough to do this.

Don't challenge him.

 

[GOilers88]

Don’t tell me it won’t happen and how unlikely it is to happen. I know all this I’m Just wondering what people think

When people say it won't happen for proposals like this, it's because there's nothing that could make it happen.

I can't think of any asset packages that Montreal could put together that would entice Ottawa to give up Lafreniere. If they have the 1st and 2nd they probably grab Laf and Byfield instead of trading the picks for a different winger and center.

 

[Gaud]

Let’s turn this around. If the Habs win the lottery- what would the Sens fans is fair value for the pick assuming the get the 3rd and 5th picks.

Acquiring the 1OA would cost the sens way more than the other way around; Imagine what it would take for the habs to let go of a franchise player, who is québequois and at a draft in Montreal.

 

[TT1]

I expect MB to make a really serious push for Laf tbh. Both management and ownership have a ton of pressure on them (from the media to the season ticket holders).

MB isn't the type to overpay for players but he might need to gamble and trade for Laf at any cost. Regardless, something big is definitely happening this off-season.

 

[bert]

I don’t think I’d do that deal.

Youd be insane to not do it from a sens perspective

 

[bert]

1st for 3rd + 5th

Wouldnt do that either as a sens fan. Go watch some Stutzle video.

 

[DaPhazz]

As a Sens fan I'd do 1st OA for 3rd OA + Suzuki and Romanov

Sure

 

[DaPhazz]

I don’t think I’d do that deal.

Romanov may end up with a better career than pick 1 and 2