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  1. 26Mats

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    Kotkaniemi has #1 potential, Domi, high end #2. But having potential and reaching it are totally different things.
     
  2. Kriss E

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    Ya..Galch also had that..so..I'll wait.
     
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    Habs Icing Formerly Onice

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    Your hatred for MB blinds you to what the team is doing. That's the argument.
     
  4. Kriss E

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    Ya...right...yawn. Same crap I've been hearing for the last 3 years, pretty sure you told me that before as well when you were still cheerleading for the man, until finally jumping ship.

    This has nothing to do with Bergy.
    This has to do with me not believing Domi is a #1 leader or will he even still be here? Just how big of a raise are we gonna give him? , with me not expecting ~8 of our best prospects to reach their potential, with me not having faith our #2 D called “????”, with me having doubts that Price will be able to lead us anywhere in 3~4 years, with me not thinking Tatar will be here anymore, with us not knowing just how high will Kotka reach, etc.

    Bergevin cross my mind for a second. I mean, will we even reach the cap floor with that group?
     
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    This season has 2012-13 written all over it for me.
    Continue the re-tool by just making the playoffs, getting beat in round 1, having a low first, multiple seconds and missing out on a Barkov or MacKinnon.
    Just like in 2012-13, we thought we were set at C after drafting Galchenyuk.
    So the cycle continues. Frustrating to watch.
     
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    Who knows if we are set at C, but with Kotkaniemi, Domi, Poehling, Danault and, maybe, Suzuki, we have a lot more options to be much better off than since before Koivu showed up! It's been crap since then after we unloaded/lost Muller, Damphousse and Turgeon, all to make Koivu our #1C.
     
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    Armia should be there for sure... Big young skilled, solid 2-way game, will be extended...
     
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    Very tough to project a team in 3-4 yrs from now, trades might happen, our future 1st draft picks might be high and make the team, some prospects might bust, Tatar Danault and Petry who are all UFA at the end of 2021 might be gone, traded for picks or young players... That being said, its obvious that we are headed in the right direction and that most of our top prospects are likely to have a signifiant impact on this team...
     
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    maybe you should try awnsering his very, very basic question...
     
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    If they want a cup (maybe switch Domi/Drouin around depending):

    1: Drouin - Joe Pavelski - Wayne Simmonds
    2: Domi - Kotkaniemi - Mark Stone
    3: Lehkonen - Danault - Gallagher
    4: Tatar - Eric Staal (one last time) - Evans

    Gardiner - Weber
    Juulsen - Chara
    Mete - Romanov

    Price, if still good, otherwise trade him for someone decent enough like Mikko Koskinen
    Primeau

    The old-timer forwards should be cheap enough to bring some firepower for a final shot at the cup, but at a decent price.
     
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    Armia is UFA in two years...
     
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    Who cares. He will be signed long-term after the season. Grossly underrated player.
     
  13. Ozymandias

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    Which you grossly exagerate
     
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    wild guess : Armia does.
     
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    Can't believe that myth is still going around and not surprised someone as biased as you would spout it.

    They were traded because of their salary at a time where Molson inc was bleeding money.

    But I guess putting the blame on Koivu is just so easy
     
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    I don't understand this ''we are obviously headed in the right direction'' attitude. There is nothing obvious here.
    We had one good off season, one that has us fighting for the last PO spot, making us into a bubble team.
    We have some interesting prospects who, well, aren't even guaranteed NHLers outside of a couple, and just as to how good they'll be...well that's unknown. We have some interesting young talent on the team, but again, they also are a bit of a mystery. Drouin and Domi are having career highs, will that be a new norm or just a career best? Not to mention, Domi and Petry are due for massive raises soon if they keep it up. We are still heavily reliant on two older vets in Weber and Price..KHL teams are starting to buy the rights of players pointing towards a possible long strike again. I'm not very convinced Price can really lead this team as of today. and he's getting injured, again.

    So what is this ''right direction'' people are talking about? We are better than what most believed, that's all there is to it. One good summer doesn't make it a steady, strategic, well thought out planned. Are we on our way to contention?? I don't think so. There is a lot of work to do. We are better than last year, that's all there is to it.
     
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    Semantics. Last year we were horribad with 71 points. This year we are 2 games over .500 at the 40 game mark, on pace for 96 points. This puts us strongly in the playoff hunt, as teams over .500 usually make the playoffs.

    This means we are better than last year, so the direction has been right, meaning up, and it is obvious.

    Obviously we are headed in the right direction.

    What Kriss is saying is that it is not obvious that we will automatically, without thought, plan or effort, continue to move up the standings next year.

    He's right. Continued building of the team is possible, particularly if the glaring holes at LD are filled. However, this is not automatic or guaranteed.
     
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    Muller was traded for Turgeon. Your statement is completely unfair.

    You could say that we traded Turgeon because Koivu came of age and we felt we needed a power forward more than three centremen so we traded the softest one with the best market value.

    Damphousse was only traded many years later when he was pending UFA and the Habs felt they could not compete even if they re-signed him, so they did what most teams that are crashing do....traded their pending UFAs.
     
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    Armia is RFA at the end of the season, I expect Bergevin to sign him long term...
     
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    I think Armia is a good player who helps the team in puck possession and complements more skilled players because he also has some skill himself.

    That being said, guys like him, if overpaid, stop helping a team.

    Whether we should sign him long-term depends a lot on his salary requirements.
     
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    We are the youngest team in the league and have one of the top prospects pool in the league not including Kotka who is 18 yrs old already playing in the big league, if you cant figure all the potential of this franchise going foward, I dont know what it takes... We also have 3 vets that still have high value despite their contracts in Price Weber Petry, you put those names on the trade market and you obviously get ton of calls, just eat a part of their salary and they are easily tradables..
     
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    What in the real f*** is this ? I almost peed my pants reading that line up.
     
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    It's a realistic possibility they have, instead of banking on the current line-up suddenly becoming NHL scoring leaders (they won't). Montreal really needs to bring in some firepower to have a shot of any kind in the post season. It will not be cheap, and none of the real superstars want to join Habs, so they have to rely on the old-timers and get them with affordable 1 year deals. That's how I see they could have a theoretical chance to compete.

    We have already seen just how good their own prospects are (hint: since 2000, they have missed the playoffs 7 times and had 5 first-round exits). They will never get to the Cup finals "on their own".
     
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    so you assume Armia WANT to stay a Habs long term.
     
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    Dont see any issue with that, especially considering have have 2 other Finnish on the team...
     

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