MLB Houston fires AGM during World Series

[LadyStanley]

Wow

Houston not looking good with so many feet in mouth disease sufferers?

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[LadyStanley]

Astros fire assistant GM Brandon Taubman for 'inappropriate comments'
Astros fire assistant GM Brandon Taubman for 'inappropriate comments'

More on story. League had initiated investigation.

Domestic violence is not something to make a joke about.

 

[rojac]

Wow

Houston not looking good with so many feet in mouth disease sufferers?

What other incidents have there been lately?

 

[LeHab]

What other incidents have there been lately?

Houston Rockets & China?

 

[LT]

Houston Rockets & China?

Except this painted the Rockets favorably (except for Harden's initial comments). Unless you're like LeBron and only care about money.

 

[LeHab]

Except this painted the Rockets favorably (except for Harden's initial comments). Unless you're like LeBron and only care about money.

Rockets owner attempted to distance the franchise from Morey comments which brought criticism around lack of support for Morey. At the same time Rockets lost deals in China for not firing Morey.

I'm pretty sure if Rockets had the choice of this incident never happening they would gladly take it.

 

[rojac]

Houston Rockets & China?

To be honest, I had read “Houston” as “Houston Astros” and not as the city of Houston and all its teams.

 

[LadyStanley]

Paywall. Pundit pushing for more punishment.

 

[Voight]

He must've been hammered, because why on earth would you shout that at female reporters? Or females in general.

 

[Lt Dan]

Can someone please explain to me what happened here?

From what I have read, I feel like I might be missing part of the story?


I am getting my information from this article
Astros fire assistant GM Brandon Taubman for 'inappropriate comments'

which says

Taubman repeatedly yelled “Thank God we got Osuna. I’m so f---ing glad we got Osuna” in the direction of the reporters during the celebration, one of whom was wearing a purple domestic-violence awareness bracelet and had been critical of the Astros acquisition of Osuna, according to the report.

If I am understanding this correctly, the AGM (Tabuman) was fired for mentioning that they were glad they acquired a closer who was previously suspended for domestic violence?

Using this same logic if someone trades for Slava Voynov or praises their play, should they also be fired?

This seems like massive overkill to me

 

[tarheelhockey]

He must've been hammered, because why on earth would you shout that at female reporters? Or females in general.

Or at anyone, really. What is the point of doing something like that? To rub the guy's sordid past in people's faces?

Directing it toward a cluster of women is compound stupidity.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Can someone please explain to me what happened here?

From what I have read, I feel like I might be missing part of the story?


I am getting my information from this article
Astros fire assistant GM Brandon Taubman for 'inappropriate comments'

which says



If I am understanding this correctly, the AGM (Tabuman) was fired for mentioning that they were glad they acquired a closer who was previously suspended for domestic violence?

Using this same logic if someone trades for Slava Voynov or praises their play, should they also be fired?

This seems like massive overkill to me

Imagine if some team signed Voynov, and there was a huge ****storm over the ethics of acquiring a player with that kind of baggage in his past, and a few weeks later he ended up playing a (not-particularly-special) role in a playoff win. And after the game, an AGM noticed a few female reporters in the dressing room and with zero provocation started going "yeahhhhh I'm really ****ing glad we got Voynov! Thank god for Voynov!".

I'd say it's not overkill in the slightest to fire his ass on the spot for something like that. There's flat-out no excuse for it. He knew exactly what he was doing and he righfully got called out for it.

 

[Lt Dan]

Imagine if some team signed Voynov, and there was a huge ****storm over the ethics of acquiring a player with that kind of baggage in his past, and a few weeks later he ended up playing a (not-particularly-special) role in a playoff win. And after the game, an AGM noticed a few female reporters in the dressing room and with zero provocation started going "yeahhhhh I'm really ****ing glad we got Voynov! Thank god for Voynov!".

I'd say it's not overkill in the slightest to fire his ass on the spot for something like that. There's flat-out no excuse for it. He knew exactly what he was doing and he righfully got called out for it.

Did he chase them down and yell it in their faces ? or was he celebrating along with the other players in the locker room?


Also- the shitstorm should be irrelevant here. Osuna served his suspension. He did the crime and he did his time.
is the same media also causing a shit storm over every other felon in the greater houston area or are they singling him out because he is famous?

 

[Voight]

Or at anyone, really. What is the point of doing something like that? To rub the guy's sordid past in people's faces?

Directing it toward a cluster of women is compound stupidity.

What I meant is I could see a bunch of bros saying that to each other, not that it would "OK" by any means but he chose literally the worst scenario possible to say something so stupid.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Did he chase them down and yell it in their faces ? or was he celebrating along with the other players in the locker room?

Yes, he deliberately directed it at them across the room. He wasn't yelling it to another player, he was yelling it at the women in the room.

Also- the ****storm should be irrelevant here.

The media ****storm is the entire reason Taubman took that moment to rub Osuna's presence in the women's faces. It's the farthest thing from irrelevant... it was his motivation for making Osuna an issue at that moment.

is the same media also causing a **** storm over every other felon in the greater houston area or are they singling him out because he is famous?

That's a completely ridiculous question.

 

[Lt Dan]

Yes, he deliberately directed it at them across the room. He wasn't yelling it to another player, he was yelling it at the women in the room.



The media ****storm is the entire reason Taubman took that moment to rub Osuna's presence in the women's faces. It's the farthest thing from irrelevant... it was his motivation for making Osuna an issue at that moment.

(I am not saying that isn't true)
But is there video or is that is what is being reported?

One thing that I have learned over the years is that ten people can see the same thing happening and there will be six different stories. Often (not always, but often) when video comes forward a different story is told often very different than the people who are most adamant about what they saw

 

[David Dennison]

(I am not saying that isn't true)
But is there video or is that is what is being reported?

One thing that I have learned over the years is that ten people can see the same thing happening and there will be six different stories. Often (not always, but often) when video comes forward a different story is told often very different than the people who are most adamant about what they saw

According to three eyewitnesses interviewed by NPR, Taubman appeared to be responding to the presence of a female reporter who was wearing a purple rubber bracelet to heighten awareness about domestic violence.
That reporter has tweeted repeatedly about the issue over the years. Taubman complained last year that some of the reporter's informational tweets — promoting domestic violence hotline telephone numbers, for example — appeared moments after Osuna entered several Astros games in relief.

Clearly targeted at one reporter, a survivor of DV, who tweeted DV hotline every time Osuna came in. Another Astros employee apologized in the moment. Nobody in the Astros org is refuting any of this anymore.

Also don't be an ass in public to reporters, they tend to take good notes.

 

[Voight]

Luhnow saying he was too busy to give her an in person / formal apology was the cherry on top.

Like I get your team is in the WS.... but really man?