OT: MLB Athletics in Vegas

[LadyStanley]

Source: Some Clark County officials concerned about baseball stadium bonds, property tax impact

Some Clark County officials have concerns over the Oakland A’s ability to pay their debt and generate tax revenue in a Las Vegas ballpark, which could affect property taxes for residents if revenue falls short.

www.fox5vegas.com

Darn tutooting

 

[LadyStanley]

Oakland A's and Nevada officials reportedly reach tentative deal for up to $380M in public funds for $1.5B Las Vegas stadium

The A's still face obstacles, as the club awaits approval from the Nevada state legislature to make the deal official.

sports.yahoo.com

Tenative agreement

 

[willy702]

As predicted they will bring this up with no time to debate or challenge anything in it. I'm just shocked the A's are willing to do this now. From controlling key parts of a $12bn project to now being a renter and likely afterthought on the Strip with no additional revenue opportunities.

 

[LadyStanley]

A's stadium deal: $180 million funding from state, $120 million from Clark County

Nevada would pitch in $180 million to build a $1.5 billion stadium for the A’s under a deal that isn’t tied to a specific location, 8NewsNow.com has learned from a state lawmaker.

www.8newsnow.com

Details

• $180 million in funding from the state, $90 million to be repaid over the next 30 years
• $120 million in bonds from Clark County
• No location is specified in the deal as it currently stands

Legislation to be submitted to in the next few days.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I know this was posted a while ago but I 100% agree. NBA is the one that would impact the Knights.

I think the Athletics would do well in Vegas, and an MLS team in Allegiant would also do well without hurting the Knights bottom line (or the Raiders obviously.)

I think Vegas needs another decade of growth before trying to get an NBA team here too.

I know Seattle and Vegas are the favorites for expansion but hopefully Kansas City or St. Louis or somewhere steps in.

If you can get the NHL and NBA to schedule the 14 NBA teams that are in NHL cities strategically with Golden Knights games might be able to offer longer stay sports packages for fans that would come to see one or the other, stay a week to see both their teams.

 

[LadyStanley]

I don't know that the Raiders would allow a MLS team to play on (their) grass at Allegiant. I don't know that the MLS would allow the team to play on turf. I assumed the (non-Foley) MLS bid planned a new stadium.

 

[Vegan Knight]

I don't know that the Raiders would allow a MLS team to play on (their) grass at Allegiant. I don't know that the MLS would allow the team to play on turf. I assumed the (non-Foley) MLS bid planned a new stadium.

Foley wanted to play at Allegiant with MLS and when public funding was being discussed to build it the suitability for MLS also was used as an extra selling point, I think David Beckham even came here and talked to lawmakers.

I think they would convert UNLV's turf to grass, plenty of the top college football teams play on grass (UNLV football isn't valuable at all anyway) and it tends to be easier on joints. The MLS team would probably be on the hook for the upkeep of that new grass year round though.

 

[LadyStanley]

@Vegan Knight how would they do that?

Get a second grass tray? What kind of doe-see-do would be needed to swap the two trays?

Would lose that parking too

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB owners could vote on A’s relocation to Las Vegas as soon as June meetings

MLB commissioner Rob Manfred said Thursday that it’s still “very difficult” to have a timeline for the A’s possible move to Nevada.

sports.yahoo.com

Vote by league (owners) could xcome at June meetings

 

[LadyStanley]

First look at proposed A’s baseball ballpark on Las Vegas Strip

The Athletics have released the first images showing what a professional baseball stadium on the Las Vegas Strip might look like. This is would be the A’s new home if the team relocates to La…

www.8newsnow.com

Stadium renderings released. Looks like the entire Trop site would be developed with the stadium in the back corner.

 

[willy702]

First look at proposed A’s baseball ballpark on Las Vegas Strip

The Athletics have released the first images showing what a professional baseball stadium on the Las Vegas Strip might look like. This is would be the A’s new home if the team relocates to La…

www.8newsnow.com

Stadium renderings released. Looks like the entire Trop site would be developed with the stadium in the back corner.

Yeah and what happens when they build a new hotel? The view is crap. Besides those renderings are total BS if they only get 9 acres. That is far more than 9 acres there, probably close to 20 with what they rendered there. Typical A's, all they do is BS.

 

[LadyStanley]

A's stadium legislation introduced late Friday in Carson City

Legislation paving the way to build a $1.5 billion stadium for the A’s move to Las Vegas was introduced Friday night in Carson City.

www.8newsnow.com

Next step

 

[StreetHawk]

Foley wanted to play at Allegiant with MLS and when public funding was being discussed to build it the suitability for MLS also was used as an extra selling point, I think David Beckham even came here and talked to lawmakers.

I think they would convert UNLV's turf to grass, plenty of the top college football teams play on grass (UNLV football isn't valuable at all anyway) and it tends to be easier on joints. The MLS team would probably be on the hook for the upkeep of that new grass year round though.

The MLS overlap with the NFL season is between August pre-season to early October. So, they can deal with the grass when their season begins in the spring through to the end of the summer.

With grass fields, if you remove them in section and then reassemble them after an event, how long does the grass need to sit before it is suitable for play for a soccer match or football game?

Where the NFL played in England at Tottenheim, they retracted the grass field into 3 section to play on an artificial surface. I recall that there was an article that said they could play soccer on the grass once it was returned to the surface in around 48 hours.

But that is grass in 3 large sections. If you are taking it up in like 20-30 sections since current stadiums are not designed to do it mechanically like Tottenheim, how much more time does that add before a game is played?

 

[LadyStanley]

Allegiant has a huge pan for the grass that is rolled out into the sunshine or when artificial turf is used for UNLV

 

[LadyStanley]

So, won't pass in regular session (which ends about "now").

 

[LadyStanley]

Passed by senate, then assembly.

A's 'excited' as Nevada governor signs Las Vegas stadium funding bill into law

Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo signed the Athletics' Las Vegas stadium funding bill into law, and the relocation approval process is the next hurdle for the franchise.

www.foxnews.com

And signed by Governor.

Next up to officially apply for relocation.

 

[hangman005]

Sad.... Return to sender, the raiders too and we can hopefully get good teams.

 

[willy702]

Disgusting. I'll never set foot in an A's game again on principle. This was passed on the idea that people are so desperate for baseball that they will take anything. Even if the math doesn't add up nor do the renderings. Not to mention the forever deal not to have public money involved on Strip projects was broken. Good job guys and gals, you just effectively gave money to a casino owner.

I can only hope voters send a strong message to every politician who voted for this.

 

[LadyStanley]

Nevada teachers union working to stop state funds toward A’s ballpark

The teachers union’s PAC — called “Schools Over Stadiums” — says it’s being organized “to prioritize public education over corporate tax giveaways.”

www.reviewjournal.com

Teacher's union forms PAC to fight ballpark spending over education.

 

[hangman005]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, this should have the City, County and the States response to the A's

 

[LadyStanley]

A’s to Vegas: What’s next in the relocation process?

The Oakland Athletics have secured up to $380 million in public financing for a planned Las Vegas ballpark, but steps remain before shovels hit the ground.

www.reviewjournal.com

What's next.... Relocation submission to MLB committee, then recommendation to MLB exec/commish. Then stadium authority (next scheduled meeting 8/24) gets involved.

Then bonds. A's have to pony up first $100m before any public funds come into play.

 

[BattleBorn]

I haven't been in the city in the few months that this A's thing started really taking off, but from outside I don't see why people are making a big deal about the financing. It seems like a decent investment for 30 years of 82+ events a year drawing in likely a few thousand people each time.

Expansion would obviously be better, but assuming relocation has to happen it's either wait or get the A's.

I'm on record saying that baseball would be the most difficult path to pro sports success in Las Vegas for obvious baseball-related reasons, but if it's going to work it's going to work on the Strip.

 

[LadyStanley]

A’s Vegas stadium design includes Musk’s Vegas Loop

The ballpark is going to rely on fans walking to the stadium from nearby resorts. But Elon Musk’s Boring Company Vegas Loop could also be a key element to the transportation plan.

www.reviewjournal.com

Two Loop stations planned

 

[willy702]

Amazing how they seem to want to replicate a lot of features found in the Marlins and Rays stadiums with the large sliding windows, prominent nightclubs and translucent room. Cause nothing says success like MLBs Florida franchises.

 

[LadyStanley]

Need to have premium spaces 'cause Vegas.