Value of: Mitch Marner

[Martin Skoula]

Anyone suggesting Marner needs retention, remember that it also counts for his actual money owed. 2 million retained means you have Marner for the remainder of his contract at 5 mil in real cash per year. A 90+ point 23 year old for 5 mil in cash over the next 5 years is arguably a top-5 non-ELC asset in the league, especially in a pandemic.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Not really, you trying to pretend 21 points don't exist is funnier.

Do you mean 5 goals in 25 games for 11M/year?

 

[Kshahdoo]

Posession numbers are a piece of a story that help forecast scoring goals. To somehow think that having positive posession stats is a negative is beyond dumb.

Possession numbers are a typical excuse on this forum for players, who don't have enough more importants stats. For forwards, those are goals and points.

 

[Dache]

yeah. there is no information that I am aware of that has Marners ask that high. It is a pretty good consensus that mid eights would have signed him for 7 to 8 years. That would have been a bargain

Ok, once again I’m not the one that made that statement, I only responded to it. And again I’ll ask for what false information was using that you claimed so many times?

 

[Dache]

Parayko only has two years of control left.

I was told by some leaf posters that that’s a good thing, means more flexibility

 

[Merrrlin]

Possession numbers are a typical excuse on this forum for players, who don't have enough more importants stats. For forwards, those are goals and points.

Goals and points are just a different stat. More important? I don't know, I guess ask Patrice Bergeron or Ryan O'Reilly. Most stats quoted in these parts are valuable.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Do you mean 5 goals in 25 games for 11M/year?

Given the type of player Marner is, I don't think judging him on his goal total makes much sense.

 

[Notsince67]

Yeah, I'm not even gonna point you out what Toronto fans said about Marner during the series vs Columbus, I don't have time for this, but I assure you, there were a lot of funny things there... funny, considering all these attempts from Toronto fans to defend Marner... Much funnier, than my "smarmy replies".

Again, you cite a lot of people who are children. An appeal to a child like authority is the worse example of a logical falacy

 

[Notsince67]

Ok, once again I’m not the one that made that statement, I only responded to it. And again I’ll ask for what false information was using that you claimed so many times?

Your point total for 1 and the fact that you cited incorrect information is another

 

[Dache]

Your point total for 1 and the fact that you cited incorrect information is another

What point total that I posted is incorrect? 60 something? Because 69 is 60 something. And what information did I cite? I think you may need to look up the definition of cited. Or you could just admit that you got overzealous about attacking someone and are now wrong.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Again, you cite a lot of people who are children. An appeal to a child like authority is the worse example of a logical falacy

Of course, they are children, and you aren't. I see.

 

[Morbo]

I was told by some leaf posters that that’s a good thing, means more flexibility

I'm sure you were, but I don't see how that changes anything.

 

[Dache]

I'm sure you were, but I don't see how that changes anything.

Well to some people a shorter contract is seen as a positive so that’s how it would change things

 

[Morbo]

Well to some people a shorter contract is seen as a positive so that’s how it would change things

A positive in what context? certainly not this one.

 

[Dache]

A positive in what context? certainly not this one.

I don’t know. In the context that I was told a positive about Matthews contract was that it gives the leafs flexibility over having a longer contract. Seeing as Matthews and Marner are both stars I would assume it applies here as well. Maybe @Leaf Fans could elaborate more on what he meant.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

The vast majority of leaf fans fully acknowledge just how badly Marner is overpaid. I know there is a vocal minority that hang out here and make the rest of us look bad... but go check out the leafs board. The vast majority of us fully understand just how horrible that contract is.

That being said.... the contract is so player friendly that Marner has already been paid very close to half his contract already. Get that? ONE year into his 6 year contract, he’s already been paid over $30 million of his $65 million contract. That means a team get 5 years of a 6 year contract for almost half price.
With teams looking for internal budgets... Marners contract looks like quite the steal. He has massive trade value. I say the leafs do it.

 

[The don godfather]

Carlo debrusk and Federic for mitch.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Do you mean 5 goals in 25 games for 11M/year?

No, I believe he means 21 points in 25 games.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I was told by some leaf posters that that’s a good thing, means more flexibility

You were told that by me.

 

[Leaf Fans]

The vast majority of leaf fans fully acknowledge just how badly Marner is overpaid. I know there is a vocal minority that hang out here and make the rest of us look bad... but go check out the leafs board. The vast majority of us fully understand just how horrible that contract is.

That being said.... the contract is so player friendly that Marner has already been paid very close to half his contract already. Get that? ONE year into his 6 year contract, he’s already been paid over $30 million of his $65 million contract. That means a team get 5 years of a 6 year contract for almost half price.
With teams looking for internal budgets... Marners contract looks like quite the steal. He has massive trade value. I say the leafs do it.

You do a fine job of making yourself look bad. You don't need anyone else.

 

[Johnsie19]

Stop reading Eklund.

Some sort of Leafs nation crap actually

 

[Halla]

marner isnt going anywhere

94pts followed up by a 93pt pace

but he makes 10+ so everyone has him gone for scraps. Just stop. 90-100pts this year for mitch

 

[bobholly39]

The vast majority of leaf fans fully acknowledge just how badly Marner is overpaid. I know there is a vocal minority that hang out here and make the rest of us look bad... but go check out the leafs board. The vast majority of us fully understand just how horrible that contract is.

That being said.... the contract is so player friendly that Marner has already been paid very close to half his contract already. Get that? ONE year into his 6 year contract, he’s already been paid over $30 million of his $65 million contract. That means a team get 5 years of a 6 year contract for almost half price.
With teams looking for internal budgets... Marners contract looks like quite the steal. He has massive trade value. I say the leafs do it.

Marner isn't overpaid. That's the wrong term. 10M$ for a ~95 point player? I think thats fine.

The fact that Marner was able to land that contract while he was an RFA with limited negotiation powers is a big failure for Leafs management. But it doesnt mean the player himself is overpaid based on his value or production

 

[Colt55]

Marner isn't overpaid. That's the wrong term. 10M$ for a ~95 point player? I think thats fine.

The fact that Marner was able to land that contract while he was an RFA with limited negotiation powers is a big failure for Leafs management. But it doesnt mean the player himself is overpaid based on his value or production

Marner makes 10.9 million a year so basically 11 mil. Thats crazy for a 90pt winger that has only topped out at 26 goals and has a ton of secondary assists.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Marner makes 10.9 million a year so basically 11 mil. Thats crazy for a 90pt winger that has only topped out at 26 goals and has a ton of secondary assists.

Making stuff up it seems? Marner had an insane amount of first assists the last few sessons. He has a disproportionate amount of primary assists compared to secondary at 5 on 5, all situations etc.

Let's look at the last 2 years, 5 on 5:
2018/19: 36 first assist, 6 second
2019/20: 17 first assist, 8 second

Your right, the guy is just stacking up secondary points, what a bum