Miscellaneous NHL Talk (discussion about NHL matters)

[Ryker]

But what about Kunitz he was average now they make him out more than he was when he joined the team. I think Krishna has a point. Both players didn't have much until they joined the pens

Huh? Both of them were legit before they came over.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Thomas Hickey is on waivers.

Let's pick him up

Hickey is another Danny Syvret.

Offensively gifted and put up strong numbers in junior hockey, but clearly doesn't have the same ability at the NHL level nor does he have the required all-around attributes to be an everyday NHL level defenseman.

Hickey was a terrible draft pick by the Kings at 4 overall and were called out for it at the time.

 

[sobrien]

I dont watch much east coast games and I noticed something about Pens fans. I want you guys to clarify since you are their rivals, but is James Neal really that good? Why is he considered an untouchable? I think they make him way too much of a big deal, but I am not sure, so I ask you guys, is he the real deal or do they just hype him way too much?

He's that good. Shero robbed Dallas in that trade. It took him til his first full season to get acclimated with the team (he struggled the season he got traded), but he's a premier power forward in the league.

 

[MsMeow]

Bettman will be at the Kings' banner raising but by his choice won't go on the ice. Finally he does something right and will keep the ceremony free of boos.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Only player to get claimed from the waiver wire was Joe Finley by the Isles from Buffalo. Thomas Hickey ect cleared.
The Flyers have put Syvret and Matt Ford on waivers.

Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer
Waiver of Syvret, Ford, etc. is just a formality. They are non-ELC players so they have to be waived to remain w/ Phantoms.

EDIT: I think Hickey is back on wire again today. maybe to get him back to Manchester.

 

[healthyscratch]

Sam Carchidi
#Flyers Braydon Coburn: "The guys are like caged animals and can't wait to get going."
1:47pm - 14 Jan 13

I'm starting to feel it.

 

[King Forsberg]

Definitely wouldn't have giving up a third rounder for Mark Fistric.

 

[Prongo]

JVR took a shot off the foot at camp for Toronto and left the ice. No word on details yet.

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

Dimitry Kulikov still unsigned and in Russia.

@GeorgeRichards
#FlaPanthers asst GM Mike Santos says he hasn't talked to Dmitry Kulikov's agent in past two days; says he's free to play in KHL as a FA

Richards is apparently a beat writer for the team.

(Not sure where this belongs )

 

[OriginJM]

Dimitry Kulikov still unsigned and in Russia.



Richards is apparently a beat writer for the team.

(Not sure where this belongs )

i want him bad

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

i want him bad

If he hasn't returned to Florida yet, does that really make him easier to get or harder to get?

 

[OriginJM]

JVR took a shot off the foot at camp for Toronto and left the ice. No word on details yet.

does this mean we win the trade?

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

If he hasn't returned to Florida yet, does that really make him easier to get or harder to get?

I don't believe that there are any accounts of him preferring to stay in the KHL to returning to the NHL (in the abstract), so the only think I take from it is that the two sides are not close contract-wise.

Given the Panthers finances, I think this might be a spot where an offer sheet could possibly work--but I doubt they would deal him in a traditional trade for anything we would be happy to part with.

Shayne Gostisbehere was born about 20 minutes from Sunrise, FL.... He'd be a natural replacement for Campbell down the line.

 

[Beef Invictus]

JVR took a shot off the foot at camp for Toronto and left the ice. No word on details yet.

This is becoming JVR's go-to move.

 

[FLYguy3911]

"@DarrenDreger: Waivers: Nsh claimed Rich Clune from LA; NYI claimed Thomas Hickey from LA."

 

[healthyscratch]

KHL backing off previous hot air statements and sitting Wisnovsky until Isles situation clears up.


NHLPA and league discussing options in the Redden and Gomez situations, possibly letting teams use compliance buyout now, but still carrying the cap hit. Teams gain no advantage and player gets to play somewhere. Thats fair and I hope they work it out, would suck to sit home but being able to play.

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

KHL backing off previous hot air statements and sitting Wisnovsky until Isles situation clears up.


NHLPA and league discussing options in the Redden and Gomez situations, possibly letting teams use compliance buyout now, but still carrying the cap hit. Teams gain no advantage and player gets to play somewhere. Thats fair and I hope they work it out, would suck to sit home but being able to play.

What's the incentive for the owners?

 

[OriginJM]

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
Less than 180 canceled season tix during lockout; about 300 bought season tix after lockout ended. #Flyers

so much for stickin' it to the owners

 

[Beef Invictus]

What's the incentive for the owners?

Frees up a contract slot, perhaps?

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

Frees up a contract slot, perhaps?

Yeah, that's true, but weighed against paying a player and eating his cap hit, only to have him sign for a potential rival at peanuts, I'm not sure they'd do it.

I'd take Gomez on the Flyers at the NHL minimum. Solves our fourth line problem--or, if Laughton impresses, he can slide out to wing.

 

[healthyscratch]

Yeah, that's true, but weighed against paying a player and eating his cap hit, only to have him sign for a potential rival at peanuts, I'm not sure they'd do it.

I'd take Gomez on the Flyers at the NHL minimum. Solves our fourth line problem--or, if Laughton impresses, he can slide out to wing.

Well they acquired/signed these silly deals, not sure why they deserve any incentive. And we're not talking LeCavalier/Luongo or someone good. A roster spot is award enough IMO.

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

Well they acquired/signed these silly deals, not sure why they deserve any incentive. And we're not talking LeCavalier/Luongo or someone good. A roster spot is award enough IMO.

I'm not debating whether they "deserve" a benefit, but given that they would have to agree to the change, I think they would need to get something positive out of it.

A roster spot vs. paying a player to (potentially) play for a rival.

Dunno. Guess it depends on how many contracts those teams are carrying.

 

[kicksave27]

I think the lockout actually increased demand for flyers tix.

 

[healthyscratch]

I'm not debating whether they "deserve" a benefit, but given that they would have to agree to the change, I think they would need to get something positive out of it.

A roster spot vs. paying a player to (potentially) play for a rival.

Dunno. Guess it depends on how many contracts those teams are carrying.

Good stuff and I don't disagree with you, I'm probably just looking at it more from the players and team side. Screw the owners.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

Yeah, that's true, but weighed against paying a player and eating his cap hit, only to have him sign for a potential rival at peanuts, I'm not sure they'd do it.

I'd take Gomez on the Flyers at the NHL minimum. Solves our fourth line problem--or, if Laughton impresses, he can slide out to wing.

God no, he's so soft it's ridiculous. He also went literally almost a calender year not scoring. He's garbage. He's not even camp invite worthy. He's also a former Devil...one of the few that I loathe!