OT: Minnesota Pro Sports Thread #9

[Dr Jan Itor]

4 tackles v UofO and 5 v USC.

Barr was nowhere to be found in those games and UCLA lost 42-14 and 35-14 in those games.

0 FF or Int for all of 2013.

Not an impact player and easily blocked by drafted OL in the Pac 12.

He's a project, no doubt, but as a pass rusher, I don't really care about his INT numbers or total tackles. He'll have one job to do.

 

[gphr513]

Anthony Barr will have an immediate impact with the Vikings. He will step right in, and instantly become a Pro Bowl type talent. His 10+ year career will be very decorated and he will become one of the best LB's in Vikings history.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Dix was a horrible pick. Highly overrated especially in that range. Product of his team. Nothing more.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

4 tackles v UofO and 5 v USC.

Barr was nowhere to be found in those games and UCLA lost 42-14 and 35-14 in those games.

0 FF or Int for all of 2013.

Not an impact player and easily blocked by drafted OL in the Pac 12.

He was somewhere to be found in those games and it was on top of the QB... twice. His team winning or losing doesn't really matter.

 

[BurnsyMN]

Hold on...they gave up a 2nd and 4th?

That is just ****ing stupid when you could have had him 9 to begin with!!!!!

If they take Teddy at #9 and he busts, Spielman most likely gets fired. Taking him at 32 is far safer.
1. Gets the fan base excited
2. If he succeeds, Spielman looks like a genius
3. If he fails, it was a 32nd overall and doesn't get Spielman fired for a 2nd highly drafted QB bust.

 

[Loopy0ne]

wow... cowboys fans probably hate their gm more than i hate ours. it could be worse...

 

[tomgilbertfan]

2012: Matt Kalil, Harrison Smith
2013: Shariff Floyd, Xavier Rhodes, Cordarrelle Patterson
2014: Anthony Barr, Teddy Bridgewater

 

[Blizzard6411]

He was somewhere to be found in those games and it was on top of the QB... twice. His team winning or losing doesn't really matter.

it does matter because he had no impact which is the story of his career since getting moved to defense.
As said earlier, ask any Pac 12 fan
If they can recall a time when Barr impacted a football game and you will get a long stretch of silence.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Maybe the scheme they played didn't cater to his strengths? [mod]

 

[TaLoN]

Hold on...they gave up a 2nd and 4th?

That is just ****ing stupid when you could have had him 9 to begin with!!!!!

Technically no... they swapped their 2nd and gave a 4th to get back into the 1st.

They gave 2 picks, and got 1 in return, they lose only 1 pick... a 4th. That's CHEAP AS HELL for the distance they jumped!

it does matter because he had no impact which is the story of his career since getting moved to defense.
As said earlier, ask any Pac 12 fan
If they can recall a time when Barr impacted a football game and you will get a long stretch of silence.

Zimmer knows the types of players he needs to run his defense. This guy is a linebacker who will be used to blitz and passrush primarily... this guy fits that mold.

Was it a home run of a pick? Certainly not, but if he fits what Zimmer needs, it was a good pick.

 

[gphr513]

Hasn't UCLA been a crap team recently?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

it does matter because he had no impact which is the story of his career since getting moved to defense.
As said earlier, ask any Pac 12 fan
If they can recall a time when Barr impacted a football game and you will get a long stretch of silence.

In 2 years, he has 103 solo tackles, 41.5 tackles for loss, 23.5 sacks and 6 forced fumbles. Looks like plenty of impactful plays to me.

 

[Blizzard6411]

Go Wild!!!!!!

See you guys tomorrow on a real game day.

Sorry if I offended with my absolute opinion of Barr as 9 pick.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

In 2 years, he has 103 solo tackles, 41.5 tackles for loss, 23.5 sacks and 6 forced fumbles. Looks like plenty of impactful plays to me.

Also, last year, he won the Ronnie Lott trophy, which happens to be the defensive IMPACT player of the year.

#dropsthemic

 

[gphr513]

Also, last year, he won the Ronnie Lott trophy, which happens to be the defensive IMPACT player of the year.

#dropsthemic

 

[Blizzard6411]

In 2 years, he has 103 solo tackles, 41.5 tackles for loss, 23.5 sacks and 6 forced fumbles. Looks like plenty of impactful plays to me.

No doubt when you just look at a stat line it is impressive but again I will say that never UCLA was in a game that mattered he wasn't to be found and against the likes of Yankey he couldn't sniff the qb!!!

ASU designed a game plan that went right at him and he was lost.

Barr is not what he appears on paper, against like competition he is average.

 

[gphr513]

Blizzard, I'm asking because I don't know: Hasn't UCLA been crap recently? In your opinion, where does Barr rank on UCLA's defense. Was he their marquee player?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

No doubt when you just look at a stat line it is impressive but again I will say that never UCLA was in a game that mattered he wasn't to be found and against the likes of Yankey he couldn't sniff the qb!!!

ASU designed a game plan that went right at him and he was lost.

Barr is not what he appears on paper, against like competition he is average.

7 tackles and a sack doesn't scream "lost" to me.

 

[TaLoN]

Barr Helps Zimmer Remodel Vikings Defense

Since he became the Minnesota Vikings' head coach in January, Mike Zimmer has been working to remake the team's defense in his image. He needed a run-stuffing nose tackle; the Vikings signed one in Linval Joseph. Zimmer needed an upgrade at slot cornerback; the Vikings paid Captain Munnerlyn to fill that role.

But as much as the Vikings had done for the first and last layers of Zimmer's defense, they were still missing a key ingredient in the middle of the sandwich: a speedy, disruptive linebacker who could blitz from the strongside position and hunt down running backs. Zimmer wanted one badly enough in his final year in Cincinnati that the Bengals signed former 3-4 linebacker James Harrison at age 35, put him on the strong side of their 4-3 defense and asked him to perform many of the same functions he did in Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense.

In Minnesota, Zimmer now has a younger and bigger linebacker to do that job. His name is Anthony Barr, and after the Vikings took him with the ninth pick in the NFL draft on Thursday night, Barr became the clearest sign that a major shift is coming to Minnesota's defense.

He is 6-foot-4, 255 pounds -- essentially the same size as defensive ends Everson Griffen and Brian Robison -- and runs the 40-yard dash in 4.44 seconds. Barr has spent two years at linebacker, after he asked UCLA coach Jim Mora about switching from running back to linebacker two years ago, and he had 13 1/2 sacks in the Bruins' 3-4 defense last year. Many had projected Barr would fit best with a 3-4 team, but in Minnesota he'll be one of the keys to a defense predicated on active linebackers.

"Typically, our 'Sam' linebacker blitzes a lot more than our 'Will' linebacker, for instance," Zimmer said. "We're thinking of ways to continually try to pressure the quarterback as many times as we can, and the position he plays is a pressure position. That's why we felt good about him."

Zimmer knows what he wants!

 

[Blizzard6411]

Blizzard, I'm asking because I don't know: Hasn't UCLA been crap recently? In your opinion, where does Barr rank on UCLA's defense. Was he their marquee player?

The past two years UCLA has been solid defensively but it was because they had talent everywhere and some of those players put up numbers that looked awesome but were done as a part of the collective. individually there wasn't a stand out. look at last year and Datone Jones, total bust for GB and a first rd pick.

imo the impact player on UCLA is Zumwalt, he was present in every game including the big ones where Barr was in ghost mode.


As a rule right now I would avoid everything UCLA defense

 

[Blizzard6411]

7 tackles and a sack doesn't scream "lost" to me.

Go watch the game.

 

[Avder]

Closing this one a little early because I can.

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