Value of: Mike Hoffman to PIT

[Pens2thecup871]

McKenzie stated that multiple teams have shown interest in Mike Hoffman from FLA. He would be a decent short term replacement for Jake Guentzel and is a pending UFA at 5.1875 M. Since Florida is still in the playoff race, a hockey trade would most likely get a deal done. What would it take to get it done?

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[Jerkbait]

Hmmm I like Hoffman to pit. He would fit nicely with Sid. There have been rumors of this for a bit . Just not sure Florida will let him go while they are in a tight playoff race. If they by chance let him go

Hoffman

For

Shultz 3rd pick and a prospect ( b level) nick Bjugstad can go back too if they want him

Hoffman is one I would give out first for

 

[Laus723]

Hmmm I like Hoffman to pit. He would fit nicely with Sid. There have been rumors of this for a bit . Just not sure Florida will let him go while they are in a tight playoff race. If they by chance let him go

Hoffman

For

Shultz 3rd pick and a prospect ( b level) nick Bjugstad can go back too if they want him

Hoffman is one I would give out first for

why would we want the guy back that we moved?? And gave up McCann to actually make it happen, btw.

I’d be open to it, but seeing as how he’s a rental, he’s the kind of guy a team like ours is looking to bring in for the playoff race. Still don’t like the idea of moving him.

still, Panthers can bring Tippett up to take his spot, but they need a shutdown guy who can possibly play top pairing minutes with Ek. And a forward who plays with an edge.

 

[Flyer lurker]

1) I would be shocked IF Hoffman were traded, he would be traded to the Playoff competition. 2) If I don't see a 1 for Hoffman I say thanks but I'll keep Hoffman. Shultz and scrap metal is a hard pass.

 

[Gfroer]

Hoffman is exactly the type of player they don't need. Sid and Geno wont babysit or tolerate playing with a lazy, one-dimensional player. There's a reason why Phil isn't here anymore.

 

[Jerkbait]

why would we want the guy back that we moved?? And gave up McCann to actually make it happen, btw.

I’d be open to it, but seeing as how he’s a rental, he’s the kind of guy a team like ours is looking to bring in for the playoff race. Still don’t like the idea of moving him.

still, Panthers can bring Tippett up to take his spot, but they need a shutdown guy who can possibly play top pairing minutes with Ek. And a forward who plays with an edge.

I said IF they wanted him... Shultz can play big mins but not what you would call a shutdown guy... the rest of the penguins d is staying put except for Johnson but that's a long shot . Penguins not giving up tanev. So kot sure there is much more the cats would want. Bleuger ? ZAR ?

 

[chethejet]

Pens can't pay any top 6 winger next year unless they move say Bjugstad and the cap goes to 84 million next year. Really I have less interest in that with Jake back and McCann, Rust, Geno and Sid in the top 6. Pens can do deals in the off season and draft day to address 2020/21 roster.

 

[Ignatius]

I just want Hoffman in Pittsburgh so one day we can retire his #68 in the rafters.

 

[topshelf15]

Hoffman is exactly the type of player they don't need. Sid and Geno wont babysit or tolerate playing with a lazy, one-dimensional player. There's a reason why Phil isn't here anymore.

They work best with fast hardworking wingers who chase the puck and dig,even if they dont have the natural skill...Its ok they all turn into 20 goal or better players playing with these two

 

[Jerkbait]

I just want Hoffman in Pittsburgh so one day we can retire his #68 in the rafters.

Hahaha awesome....ya agreed Bjugstad would have to go ..of course alex G is gone and eith Shultz walking lots of room for Hoffman

 

[Jerkbait]

Hoffman is exactly the type of player they don't need. Sid and Geno wont babysit or tolerate playing with a lazy, one-dimensional player. There's a reason why Phil isn't here anymore.

They most certainly need that one shot type player especially on the PP which has struggled without kessel.. like it or not neither cup comes without kessel!! Hoffman to pitt

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Nothing interests me from PIT that would help us defensively that makes sense.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Hoffman is exactly the type of player they don't need. Sid and Geno wont babysit or tolerate playing with a lazy, one-dimensional player. There's a reason why Phil isn't here anymore.

Hoffman may make the occasional dumb play but he isn't lazy.

 

[Michoulicious]

Why would Florida trade one of their top 6 players when they want to make the playoffs? I don't see them pulling a Doug Armstrong and sabotage their push.

 

[stardog]

Has any of the drama followed him from his time with Ottawa? Realize it was his gf's drama mostly but it's crap like that which derail seasons.
Also, he was the d-bag that squirted Sid with a water bottle from the bench during the EC finals in 2017. Dick move.

 

[stardog]

I said IF they wanted him... Shultz can play big mins but not what you would call a shutdown guy... the rest of the penguins d is staying put except for Johnson but that's a long shot . Penguins not giving up tanev. So kot sure there is much more the cats would want. Bleuger ? ZAR ?

Zar and/or Bleuger have very little value individually around the league. Every team has players exactly like them in their system. You're not getting a proven, 25-30 goal/60-70 point first line winger with either of those guys as a part of the package. With Tanev those 2 have formed a very good line with great chemistry. Thus their value to the Pens FAR outweighs their trade value ...by an incredibly large margin and trading them would be stupid given what the return would be

 

[Jerkbait]

Zar and/or Bleuger have very little value individually around the league. Every team has players exactly like them in their system. You're not getting a proven, 25-30 goal/60-70 point first line winger with either of those guys as a part of the package. With Tanev those 2 have formed a very good line with great chemistry. Thus their value to the Pens FAR outweighs their trade value ...by an incredibly large margin and trading them would be stupid given what the return would be

Exactly. If you read above I stated that. The pens are a serious contender and essay for a push. There isnt much they can spare except stand Shultz. The csts would probably ask for dumo or marino but that just ain't happening. If the cats would be interested in a pick then yes

 

[Beezeral]

This trade doesn't work for either team. Panthers need a defensive minded top 4 d-man which the Penguins don't have available.

 

[PensandCaps]

This trade doesn't work for either team. Panthers need a defensive minded top 4 d-man which the Penguins don't have available.

Schultz isn't defenisve minded but he would help.

 

[Beezeral]

Schultz isn't defenisve minded but he would help.

What aspect does he improve the Panthers defensive corps if he doesn't fill the need of a shut down defenseman?

 

[PensandCaps]

What aspect does he improve the Panthers defensive corps if he doesn't fill the need of a shut down defenseman?

idk, just another quality Dman you can play.

 

[57special]

I don't see FLA helping out PIT.

 

[FinlandPanther]

idk, just another quality Dman you can play.

We have a bunch of quality defenseman that can play, but not really one minus Ekblad who can shut down top lines. Matheson has been hit or miss. Just not good trading partners I think

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Hoffman would require a 1st if FLA even wants to sell. He’s a good player.

Pitt should not be trading 1st round picks for rentals anymore. Not a good fit trade-wise.

IMO, Granlund is the ideal target for the Pens. 3rd plus a B prospect would get it done.

If we are going to swing for the fence, Poulin + 2020 1st for Rakell.

 

[Beezeral]

idk, just another quality Dman you can play.

This isn't NHL 20. You don't just put the 18 best guys in the lineup and drop the puck. Roles need to be filled. Shultz is a redundant asset for the Panthers. They are already top 5 in points by defenseman in the NHL. They don't need more offense from their blue line. They need someone who can provide stability in the defensive zone while chipping in enough offense that he isn't a black hole in the offensive zone.