Player Discussion Mike Condon (claimed off waivers by PIT)

[Adriatic]

I had a feeling someone would say this. From the time Condon was waived to the time Ottawa picked him up things have changed. Hammond got hurt and Anderson's personal life changed. If Ottawa wanted to pick him up earlier they would have claimed him then but because of a change in their goalie situation they went out and got Condon.

Some people don't understand simple supply and demand.

I applaud you guys for having the patience to explain these basic notions to some people.

 

[Michelangelo]

Condon was picked by Pittsburgh. It was the 30th team. It's too bad, but that's life. Bad timing for us. Really happy to have Lindgren and Montoya.

They were not the 30th team. It goes in order of regular season points, not playoff results.

 

[MXD]

I had a feeling someone would say this. From the time Condon was waived to the time Ottawa picked him up things have changed. Hammond got hurt and Anderson's personal life changed. If Ottawa wanted to pick him up earlier they would have claimed him then but because of a change in their goalie situation they went out and got Condon.

Some people don't understand simple supply and demand.

They sadly learned typing instead.

 

[hersky77]

Once again overaction has taken over.

When Condon was waived there was no goalie market. Was bergevin supposed to foresee that quick and zatkoff would get hurt, as well as foreseeing that Andersons wife would be dealt this awful blow and hammond getting hurt in the first period he took over as stater.

Really guys common.

 

[Michelangelo]

Once again overaction has taken over.

When Condon was waived there was no goalie market. Was bergevin supposed to foresee that quick and zatkoff would get hurt, as well as foreseeing that Andersons wife would be dealt this awful blow and hammond getting hurt in the first period he took over as stater.

Really guys common.

Injuries are common in the NHL.

Really, really shortsighted to think otherwise.

 

[hersky77]

Injuries are common in the NHL.

Really, really shortsighted to think otherwise.

When was the last time this many goalies got hurt.

The market for goalies is usually slim

 

[MaxDummy]

They were not the 30th team. It goes in order of regular season points, not playoff results.

Senators didn't claim Condon when he was available for free. Enough said. I'm far from a MB fanboy but he have no blame to take here..

 

[Newhabfan]

Just quit now

I hesitated a lot whether to put a "sarcasm" emote or not. I'm very far from being a MB basher, quite the opposite - but I wanted to be the one to say it first. For the fun.

MB did not trade Condon for the simple reason that he wanted to keep him. And he almost succeeded (Pens picked 30, because of a particular injury situation). MB did his homework and took a good bet - he rolled a critical 1 though.

The one who failed on this trade is the Sens GM, who could have picked Condon for nothing and had to pay a 5th now to get him.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Why wouldn't we? Instead of ******* Carr and Sergachev around.

All I hear is excuses for Bergevin. Not bad, for a team whose slogan used to be "no excuses"

So your reason to keep condon is "why wouldnt we"

 

[MaxDummy]

Also a 5th round pick has what, 2% chances of being an impact player?

 

[MXD]

TBH, I didn't even know a player could be traded less than a month after being waived.

 

[Michelangelo]

So your reason to keep condon is "why wouldnt we"

Or because he has value? How about that for a reason?

Also a 5th round pick has what, 2% chances of being an impact player?

Brendan Gallagher and Charles Hudon were both 5th round picks.

 

[LaP]

The love for Condon will always escape me. He's not a good goalie for now. A 5th round pick is nothing. That's what we paid for Flynn ...

 

[Newhabfan]

Trade aside, is anyone fearing that the arrival of Condon in Ottawa will turn them into a juggernaut ? He will get shutouts against the Habs ?

 

[MXD]

Trade aside, is anyone fearing that the arrival of Condon in Ottawa will turn them into a juggernaut ? He will get shutouts against the Habs ?

Considering Condon starting means Anderson not starting, I fail to see how we lose here.

I'm curious about what they'll do when Hammond is back, considering Hammond's salary and all.

 

[Runner77]

As poster montreal has repeatedly mentioned, Condon has no rebound control. Is he going to figure that out just because he's playing in Ottawa? He's a second-stringer who lucked out on NHL games last year -- he remains what he is, a project and a liability if played more than in a back-up capacity. There was no point holding on to three goalies in the hopes of landing a late pick. Good luck to Condon in Ottawa and many happy returns in the form of healthy rebounds for the Habs to pounce upon.

 

[Rafafouille]

Also a 5th round pick has what, 2% chances of being an impact player?

Looking at previous NHL drafts, you're looking at 1-3 picks playing 300+ games. 3-10% of making the NHL full time, figure half of them are impact players so 1.5-5% per year.

 

[MaxDummy]

Brendan Gallagher and Charles Hudon were both 5th round picks.

So what? For every Gallagher there is 50 Jason Wilson

 

[donghabs98]

Or because he has value? How about that for a reason?



Brendan Gallagher and Charles Hudon were both 5th round picks.

Maxim Trurev and Andrew Conboy were 5th round picks too. Also considering at the time he nearly made it past waivers his value wasn't that high. The only reason why his value went up is because of the amount of injuries and circumstances that have unfolded since. Sure injuries happen but you can't reasonably expect every GM to forsee certain types of injuries. GMs aren't fortune tellers, Habs had no use for Condon in the NHL and wanted him to play instead of wasting space on the sidelines.

 

[NobleSix]

Or because he has value? How about that for a reason?



Brendan Gallagher and Charles Hudon were both 5th round picks.

Hudon hasn't amounted to anything in the NHL. For all we know he could be a bust playing in Europe in 3 years. I hope that isn't the case, but until he is an NHL player, you can't really use him as an example in this case.

Obviously ill give you Gallagher, that was an excellent pick up. But that is honestly one case out of the hundreds of 5th round picks that never panned out.

There's no need to be mad about not getting a 5th. If Bergevin could have gotten something for Condon at the time, he obviously would have. There just wasn't a deal, and honestly no point in having him eat up a roster spot in the hopes of getting a 5th rounder.

 

[MXD]

Maxim Trurev and Andrew Conboy were 5th round picks too. Also considering at the time he nearly made it past waivers his value wasn't that high. The only reason why his value went up is because of the amount of injuries and circumstances that have unfolded since. Sure injuries happen but you can't reasonably expect every GM to forsee certain types of injuries. GMs aren't fortune tellers, Habs had no use for Condon in the NHL and wanted him to play instead of wasting space on the sidelines.

I'd even add that Condon wouldn't even have been the 3rd netminder, had he stayed here.

 

[covfefe]

So what? For every Gallagher there is 50 Jason Wilson

He's selling real estate now

 

[Michelangelo]

So what? For every Gallagher there is 50 Jason Wilson

Tell that to Trevor Timmins.

Might as well forfeit all our draft picks then.

 

[MXD]

Tell that to Trevor Timmins.

Might as well forfeit all our draft picks then.

By all means, contact MB and tell him such.

 

[TheAntiPrice]

I'm more worried about Condom selling out our game strategies and locker-room secrets to them. Sens already give us fits, now they'll be able to prepare for us even better.