Player Discussion Mika Zibanejad

[Pavel Buchnevich]

There goes our first round sweep of Montreal.

I really don't think this is going to be a problem. It'll be figured out. I'd put it as less than 1% that Mika misses any games because of this.

 

[Machinehead]

The Rangers are an employee relations machine. Best in pro sports. Well known around the league that they treat their players like absolute gods.

If anything happened to Mika, the Rangers would sue so many people so fast that the tremors would be felt back in Sweden.

 

[Revel]

It appears that the current administration hopes to prioritize the acceptance of religious minorities (i.e. Christians) from the 7 Muslim-majority countries in question. Even if Mika does hold dual citizenship, maybe the fact that he is a Christian means he'll be unaffected by the current ban.

 

[Griffinbw]

Mika isn't an Iranian citizen. He's Swedish born. Stop.

 

[darko]

Mika isn't an Iranian citizen. He's Swedish born. Stop.

So what if he was born in Sweden?

 

[Kakko]

So what if he was born in Sweden?

So he's Swedish. He may have Iranian heritage, but he's Swedish.

 

[Griffinbw]

So what if he was born in Sweden?

So he holds dual Finnish and Iranian citizenship. In Sweden you "inherit" the citizenship of your parents.
This doesn't matter anyways. The ban is on immigration, it has no effect on current residents.

 

[TheTakedown]

The Rangers are an employee relations machine. Best in pro sports. Well known around the league that they treat their players like absolute gods.

If anything happened to Mika, the Rangers would sue so many people so fast that the tremors would be felt back in Sweden.

Reading this makes me happy my team is this powerful...

Unlike the devil's who had to move to Newark

 

[nyr2k2]

So he holds dual Finnish and Iranian citizenship. In Sweden you "inherit" the citizenship of your parents.
This doesn't matter anyways. The ban is on immigration, it has no effect on current residents.

From Reuters:

"New restrictions on immigrants and refugees in an executive order signed by President Donald Trump will mean legal permanent residents who have passports from the seven countries have to be cleared back into the United States on a case-by-case basis, an official told reporters in a briefing."

So, yeah it does.

 

[Griffinbw]

From Reuters:

"New restrictions on immigrants and refugees in an executive order signed by President Donald Trump will mean legal permanent residents who have passports from the seven countries have to be cleared back into the United States on a case-by-case basis, an official told reporters in a briefing."

So, yeah it does.

Cleared back in. He hasn't left the country so it's not an issue.

 

[Revel]

From Reuters:

"New restrictions on immigrants and refugees in an executive order signed by President Donald Trump will mean legal permanent residents who have passports from the seven countries have to be cleared back into the United States on a case-by-case basis, an official told reporters in a briefing."

So, yeah it does.

Mika is certainly a special case. He won't have a problem playing games in Canada and getting back in to the U.S.

 

[nyr2k2]

Cleared back in. He hasn't left the country so it's not an issue.

So everything will be fine unless he the Rangers have a game in Canada.

Look I seriously doubt this would impact Zibanejad in any way, but I felt compelled to correct you. You can't just run around claiming what these types of things do and do not affect without knowing what you're actually talking about. That's how we ended up where we're at.

 

[nyr2k2]

Mika is certainly a special case. He won't have a problem playing games in Canada and getting back in to the U.S.

Yes, I made the point about him being a special case earlier in this thread. Just correcting an incorrect statement that the order only affected new immigrants.

 

[Machinehead]

Cleared back in. He hasn't left the country so it's not an issue.

He will when we play teams in Canada

 

[Griffinbw]

So everything will be fine unless he the Rangers have a game in Canada.

Look I seriously doubt this would impact Zibanejad in any way, but I felt compelled to correct you. You can't just run around claiming what these types of things do and do not affect without knowing what you're actually talking about. That's how we ended up where we're at.

Lol fair enough. Agreed, can't possibly see the NHL/NHLPA allowing this to effect any players.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Mika is certainly a special case. He won't have a problem playing games in Canada and getting back in to the U.S.

The executive order only mentions diplomats as "special cases," the Iraq-born British MP was told he can't come here, that Iranian director can't make it to the Oscars. There are scientists and PhDs that got caught up in the air, aren't they objectively as important to the country as a good second line center? Obviously it's all a moot point if he doesn't have that citizenship.

 

[nyr2k2]

The executive order only mentions diplomats as "special cases," the Iraq-born British MP was told he can't come here, that Iranian director can't make it to the Oscars. There are scientists and PhDs that got caught up in the air, aren't they objectively as important to the country as a good second line center? Obviously it's all a moot point if he doesn't have that citizenship.

Honestly, yeah, a professional athlete would probably draw more media attention and outrage from your "average Joe" than any of those aforementioned cases, sad as that is. And that's really what matters, is how big of a story it is.

Those other guys do science and smart guy things and are bad.

 

[Revel]

The executive order only mentions diplomats as "special cases," the Iraq-born British MP was told he can't come here, that Iranian director can't make it to the Oscars. There are scientists and PhDs that got caught up in the air, aren't they objectively as important to the country as a good second line center? Obviously it's all a moot point if he doesn't have that citizenship.

This is untrue. Neither of them have been told by anyone representing the US gov't that they will be denied entry. What you are reading is undoubtedly knee-jerk "woe as me" statements made by upset people and special interest groups. Neither of these people know for sure what will happen...and they always have the ability to apply for special exemption. In my mind, if it came down to that, people like this would be exempt due to their exceptional status.

All you are reading now online is tons and tons of websites looking for clicks. Calm down.

 

[nyr__1994]

Cleared back in. He hasn't left the country so it's not an issue.

I think he is currently in Turks and Caicos on vacation...so it very well may be an issue.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

This is untrue. Neither of them have been told by anyone representing the US gov't that they will be denied entry. What you are reading is undoubtedly knee-jerk "woe as me" statements made by upset people and special interest groups. Neither of these people know for sure what will happen...and they always have the ability to apply for special exemption. In my mind, if it came down to that, people like this would be exempt due to their exceptional status.

All you are reading now online is tons and tons of websites looking for clicks. Calm down.

If they wanted to write in an exception for O and P-visas I'm sure they would have. They had enough time. If they couldn't fathom the possibility that people from the Undesirable Nations might be famous, that's on them

 

[Revel]

If they wanted to write in an exception for O and P-visas I'm sure they would have. They had enough time. If they couldn't fathom the possibility that people from the Undesirable Nations might be famous, that's on them

I'm going to repeat myself.

The Iranian Director has been told by NO ONE connected with the US gov't that he will not be let in.

The Iranian British MP has been told by NO ONE in the US gov't that he will not be let in.

What HAS happened is that we have been told that things will be handled on a case-by-case basis.

ALL FACT.

Now you can sit here and make assumptions all day...and believe all the rhetoric being put out by people upset with the policy...but I'll wait for things to actually happen.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I'm going to repeat myself.

The Iranian Director has been told by NO ONE connected with the US gov't that he will not be let in.

The Iranian British MP has been told by NO ONE in the US gov't that he will not be let in.

What HAS happened is that we have been told that things will be handled on a case-by-case basis.

ALL FACT.

Now you can sit here and make assumptions all day...and believe all the rhetoric being put out by people upset with the policy...but I'll wait for things to actually happen.

They were all already accepted into this country on a case-by-case basis. But if you have to pay a bribe to this third-world government, yeah, I'm sure the famous people will be able to do that.

 

[McRanger]

I'm going to repeat myself.

The Iranian Director has been told by NO ONE connected with the US gov't that he will not be let in.

The Iranian British MP has been told by NO ONE in the US gov't that he will not be let in.

What HAS happened is that we have been told that things will be handled on a case-by-case basis.

ALL FACT.

Now you can sit here and make assumptions all day...and believe all the rhetoric being put out by people upset with the policy...but I'll wait for things to actually happen.

It's possible they were told by their respective countries that legally they fall under the ban. I doubt anyone thinks all several million people received an individual text.

What's the big deal anyway? Zibanejad will be fine. The rangers will be fine. And as long as our favorite athletes and foreign language film directors are taken care of everyone will be happy. I mean outside of a those with a shred of human decency and/or a basic understanding of the Immigration and Nationality act, who's going to care?

Go Rangers!

 

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[Boruto]

This is the reason why got the 2nd rounder from Ottawa.