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In a debate that began in in a Jaromir Jagr thread of all places it turned into Messier Vs Yzerman.
To me it isn't close.. Messier without much of a thought.. I've often thought Messier overtime has really become well overrated on this board (On the general anyway.. don't spend as much time on history but can't imagine it being much different.)
I could only see Yzerman winning this due to it becoming a popularity thing and people seeing Yzerman as more of a "nice guy"..hope it doesn't but whatever.
Top 70 of all time of all time as of 2009.
Messier was voted 22nd.
Yzerman 36th.
Here are the Numbers and Awards.
Mark Messier.
Regular Season: 1756 games. 694 goals, 1193 assists, 1887 points
Playoffs: 236 games. 109 goals, 186 assists, 295 points.
Awards.
Stanley Cups: 6
Conn Smythe: 1
Hart Trophy: 2
Pearson: 2
Steve Yzerman.
Regular Season: 1514 games, 692 goals, 1063 assists, 1755 points
Playoffs: 196 games. 70 goals, 115 assists, 185 points.
Awards.
Stanley Cups: 3
Conn Smythe: 1
Hart Trophy: 0
Pearson: 1
Selke: 1
In a debate that began in in a Jaromir Jagr thread of all places it turned into Messier Vs Yzerman.
To me it isn't close.. Messier without much of a thought.. I've often thought Messier overtime has really become well overrated on this board (On the general anyway.. don't spend as much time on history but can't imagine it being much different.)
I could only see Yzerman winning this due to it becoming a popularity thing and people seeing Yzerman as more of a "nice guy"..hope it doesn't but whatever.
Top 70 of all time of all time as of 2009.
Messier was voted 22nd.
Yzerman 36th.
Here are the Numbers and Awards.
Mark Messier.
Regular Season: 1756 games. 694 goals, 1193 assists, 1887 points
Playoffs: 236 games. 109 goals, 186 assists, 295 points.
Awards.
Stanley Cups: 6
Conn Smythe: 1
Hart Trophy: 2
Pearson: 2
Steve Yzerman.
Regular Season: 1514 games, 692 goals, 1063 assists, 1755 points
Playoffs: 196 games. 70 goals, 115 assists, 185 points.
Awards.
Stanley Cups: 3
Conn Smythe: 1
Hart Trophy: 0
Pearson: 1
Selke: 1