Dreger: Members of Leafs management attended the Canes/Flames game last night. Scouting defense

[Kamiccolo]

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[Liferleafer]

Report: Maple Leafs scouting Hurricanes' available defensemen

 

[Paris in Flames]

Toronto wants D. Carolina has D.

Carolina wants goals. Toronto has goals.

The rumours are going to persist well into the offseason I'd imagine.

(assuming something doesn't get done)

 

[Raging Bull]

Alternate headline "Scouts perform description of job"

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Pesce and Hamilton shouldn't be available for a package and that appears to be what Dubas is willing to trade. I think this is about Faulk or van Riemsdyk.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Dubas is desperate in improving the Leafs defence, now back to your normal programming.

 

[Pay Carl]

Toronto wants D. Carolina has D.

Carolina wants goals. Toronto has goals.

The rumours are going to persist well into the offseason I'd imagine.

(assuming something doesn't get done)

And which of these players that scores "goals" are they going to give up?

 

[Kamiccolo]

Alternate headline "Scouts perform description of job"

Dreger indicated it was management not scouts. So I think this has a bit more bite than the normal reports.

 

[jrgtml67]

Toronto wants D. Carolina has D.

Carolina wants goals. Toronto has goals.

The rumours are going to persist well into the offseason I'd imagine.

(assuming something doesn't get done)

With dubas saying the guys have worked hard and deserve a boost I imagine there will be a trade for a D..I think itll be Pieterangelo, Parakyo, Hamilton and lesser Gudas.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Pesce and Hamilton shouldn't be available for a package and that appears to be what Dubas is willing to trade. I think this is about Faulk or van Riemsdyk.

Faulk and TVR do seem most likely if something gets done. Canes are pretty packed at RD and I'm guessing they want to open it up to entice Fox to sign this year?

 

[Rebels57]

I really wish these two teams would make a f***ing trade already.

 

[Liferleafer]

I really wish these two teams would make a ****ing trade already.

Doubt it, the only players that make sense for Toronto are guys the Canes don't want to move or Dubas won't pay the price for.

 

[Burnie97]

Carolina is in Vancouver tonight right? Anyone know the scouts there for tonight?

 

[GoldiFox]

LeBrun reported yesterday that after the Nino Niederreiter trade Waddell began receiving lots of calls. "It’s as if other teams who were staying in touch with Carolina realized it was time to get more serious about those conversations." - LeBrun. I'd imagine Dubas and the Leafs fall into this category.

Canes season is effectively over. The process for building a team that will break a decade-long Playoff drought next year starts now. The prices are already well known as 1) a 1st + prospect for Ferland and 2) a top-6 scorer (or "sniper" as Dundon puts it) for one of their RHD.

Use Nino for Rask as a template. Canes want to upgrade in asset and/or team fit in a quality-for-quality hockey deal. Centers are their greatest need.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Use Nino for Rask as a template. Canes want to upgrade in asset and/or team fit in a quality-for-quality hockey deal. Centers are their greatest need.

I wonder if Kadri for Hamilton or Pesce would be doable. I'm not sure how much Kadri would be an upgrade on what they have already, but it does match the idea of a RD for a top-6 goal scorer. Kadri did have 32 goals in each of the last 2 years. To me, that seems more reasonable than trying to figure out how to make Nylander or Kapanen for Hamilton or Pesce work.

 

[Liferleafer]

I wonder if Kadri for Hamilton would be doable. I'm not sure how much Kadri would be an upgrade on what they have already, but it does match the idea of a RD for a top-6 goal scorer. Kadri did have 32 goals in each of the last 2 years.

Pass on Hamilton.

 

[Paris in Flames]

And which of these players that scores "goals" are they going to give up?

Hey man I don't know. That's probably the only reason I'm not the Leafs GM right now.

 

[Knies iT]

I could see Carolina having significant interest in Kadri, especially considering the centre group they iced against Calgary:

Aho
Wallmark
Martinook
McKegg

Pesce/Hamilton would be realistic asks, similar to the Henrique-Vatanen trade a year ago.

 

[GoldiFox]

I wonder if Kadri for Hamilton would be doable. I'm not sure how much Kadri would be an upgrade on what they have already, but it does match the idea of a RD for a top-6 goal scorer. Kadri did have 32 goals in each of the last 2 years.

It's the closest thing to making sense from a team need and value standpoint.

I'd be shocked if Carolina wasn't on Kadri's 10-team NTC list. He'd have to be pretty upset with his role in Toronto to agree to waive for Carolina.

 

[Liferleafer]

It's the closest thing to making sense from a team need and value standpoint.

I'd be shocked if Carolina wasn't on Kadri's 10-team NTC list. He'd have to be pretty upset with his role in Toronto to agree to waive for Carolina.

Not sure upset is the word, but he may want to move to a team on which he has a greater role.

Oh, and no interest in Hamilton.

 

[PensandCaps]

With the way things are going...

I'd probably want Kap over Nylander. Better overall player and isn't making 7 mil.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I could see Carolina having significant interest in Kadri, especially considering the centre group they iced against Calgary:

Aho
Wallmark
Martinook
McKegg

Pesce/Hamilton would be realistic asks, similar to the Henrique-Vatanen trade a year ago.

Staal is hurt and one of the better center prospects in the game, Necas, is in the system. It's pretty dire in the short-term, but less so in the mid to long-term.

Kadri would be a nice bridge to Necas, though.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

With the way things are going...

I'd probably want Kap over Nylander. Better overall player and isn't making 7 mil.

I agree here. I don't think you can pay Nylander 7M and have the recently signed Teravainen making 5.4M, 1.6M less coming off a 64 pts season and now on a 67 point pace, 40 pts in 49 games. It could create dissension amongst players on the team.

The Nylander to Canes ship has sailed with that contract. Would be surprised Waddell would take that on with his recent TT team friendly contract just inked.

 

[LivingRentFree]

I think Kadri would be the best forward to trade to the Canes on both sides. Contract is great and he can produce in an offensive role no problem.

Would prefer Pesce, Faulk etc vs Hamilton though.

1st rounder is also available in my opinion.

 

[Morgs]

Well it appears Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, and Kapanen are not going anywhere. Doubt Kadri will either.

That leaves what, Johnsson as our only NHL forward with value left? Doubt that we have enough to get a significant piece, and we'd have to settle for Faulk/TVR unfortunately.