McDrai have surpassed Peak Malksby?

[PowerMac]

Draisailt is really good but too bad for McDavid he's not a Malkin level talent and won't be able to to do the heavy lifting against the tougher to play against teams to carry them to a cup by himself like Malkin did. Crosby was really lucky having somebody like Malkin on his team to secure his legacy.

 

[The Nuge]

lol no, Drai doesn't in the same convo as the other three yet.

How exactly do you figure that? Leon’s last 2 seasons are on par with anything we’ve seen from Crosby/Malkin. Literally the only argument that holds any weight is cups, but it’s a team sport, and McDrai have another decade to earn those

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

How exactly do you figure that? Leon’s last 2 seasons are on par with anything we’ve seen from Crosby/Malkin. Literally the only argument that holds any weight is cups, but it’s a team sport, and McDrai have another decade to earn those

On the other hand, that's part of what made Crosby and Malkin's "peak" so dominant. They *did* win the Cups at their peak, at a young age. And that's not including going to the Cup final a second time (losing to Detroit the prior year).

That's two long playoff runs, one resulting in a Cup win, by the time they were 23 and 22 years old. That's part of their peak resume.

*Note: before the whole "Draper/Kunitz > Crosby then" memes come out, it's not just the fact they won the Cup and went to the finals another time. It's that they were instrumental in that happening for their club. They weren't just passengers or depth options that just so happened to be lucky enough to play on multiple Cup winners.

 

[Steve]

I still think Crosby was ahead of where McDavid currently is, but I think it’s just a matter of time before McDavid gets there or surpasses that level. I think Malkin is ahead vs Draisaitl though and Tbd if he can get there IMO.

Eithe way, as many have said, McDavid and Draisaitl will need the cups.

 

[UConn126]

How has drai had a better individual performance than Crosby or malkin. I'd love to hear it

It's McDavid + Drai vs Malkin + Crosby. You can't ignore a huge factor in the debate and act like that makes your point valid.

 

[The Nuge]

On the other hand, that's part of what made Crosby and Malkin's "peak" so dominant. They *did* win the Cups at their peak, at a young age. And that's not including going to the Cup final a second time (losing to Detroit the prior year).

That's two long playoff runs, one resulting in a Cup win, by the time they were 23 and 22 years old. That's part of their peak resume.

*Note: before the whole "Draper/Kunitz > Crosby then" memes come out, it's not just the fact they won the Cup and went to the finals another time. It's that they were instrumental in that happening for their club. They weren't just passengers or depth options that just so happened to be lucky enough to play on multiple Cup winners.

And that’s definitely a fair point. But McDavid and Draisaitl are also only just now starting to get the supporting cast that Crosby/Malkin had. Leon’s scoring at a 100+ point pace in the playoffs, but the bottom 6 has really let them down.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Kirk Malksby had 4 Cups. Call me when McDrai gets one.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Not going to happen because even if peak McDavid is better than peak Crosby, which I’m not that sure about, peak Draisaitl will not be close to as good as peak Malkin.

 

[Cricket Green]

Malkin and Crosby have combined for 3 Cups and 3 Smythes.

How respectful of you, OP.

 

[Sensinitis]

Not until they get at least 1 Cup

 

[Love]

McDavid and Draisaitl haven’t done anything in the playoffs

 

[nowhereman]

Draisailt is really good but too bad for McDavid he's not a Malkin level talent and won't be able to to do the heavy lifting against the tougher to play against teams to carry them to a cup by himself like Malkin did. Crosby was really lucky having somebody like Malkin on his team to secure his legacy.

What a horribly idiotic take...

 

[Vide]

lol no, Drai doesn't in the same convo as the other three yet.

Something tells me you don't watch the Oilers.

 

[Extra Texture]

Regular season yes


Playoffs not close

Also Croskin has more flow then Malksby

Also McDrai sounds so much better

I wonder how it never evolved into "McDrai-vid". Maybe that sounds too much like some gimicky mcdonalds menu item, but McDrai sounds like some B-level Hans Gruber-type 80's movie villain.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

What a horribly idiotic take...

The ironic thing is when the Oilers actually made it past the 1st round in 2017. Leon had 17 points 13 and McDavid had 9 in 13.

 

[66-30-33]

Not until they get at least 1 Cup

Crosby/Malkin also went to the finals in 08. Hopefully Pens get atleast 1 more cup before a total rebuild.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yes, McDrai is an actual name used, Malksby (Crosbin?) isn't even a thing.

As far as the players go, I voted yes, at least in non-cup reasoning, but I won't argue with anyone who thinks otherwise.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lets see them combine for 29 goals and 60+ pts in the playoffs.

 

[Fourier]

No.

McDavid's current shortened season is the best of the 4 I think. Maybe you can give Crosby or Malkin an edge for best season if you value full 82 game season length a lot - but on a per game basis, I think McDavid's is the best.

But both Crosby and Malkin have a better season than Drai
And their second and third best seasons are probably better than any other of McDavid's season.
And playoffs are better

Peak is more than just 'single season'.

Draisaitl's last three seasons combined have been at an 82 game pace of 49 goals and 117 points. (He also won a Hart, Art Ross and Lindsey) McDavid's last five seasons have been at an 82 game pace of 41 goals and 119 points. As far as regular seasons are concerned what stretch of time would Malkin have been better than either? I am genuinely curious?

 

[Son Goku]

Draisaitl's last three seasons combined have been at an 82 game pace of 49 goals and 117 points. (He also won a Hart, Art Ross and Lindsey) McDavid's last five seasons have been at an 82 game pace of 41 goals and 119 points. As far as regular seasons are concerned what stretch of time would Malkin have been better than either? I am genuinely curious?

Blah blah blah let us know when they win the art ross and the conn Smythe in the same season

 

[Peat]

I wonder how it never evolved into "McDrai-vid". Maybe that sounds too much like some gimicky mcdonalds menu item, but McDrai sounds like some B-level Hans Gruber-type 80's movie villain.

There's your answer right there. Why would you not name them after a B-level Hans Gruber-type 80's movie villain?

 

[Fataldogg]

Not until they get a Cup unfortunately, which on the Oilers may be never.