VainGretzky
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Confirmed with Link: McDavid signs 8-year, $100M extension ($12.5M AAV)
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BoldNewLettuce
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It's kind of painful how bad McDavid is at interviews. I don't think it's an Edmonton thing and more a media thing.
Not that he needs to worry about that crap. It'll come eventually or it won't. It should get easier with success and cups too....or so I'm told.
Not that he needs to worry about that crap. It'll come eventually or it won't. It should get easier with success and cups too....or so I'm told.
Most of it is sour grapes. I say every other team in the league would take him right this minute for $100 over 8. Most other teams would be willing to pay more too. Do whatever it takes to fit him on their roster.
The intangibles he brings outweighs the extra 2-3 million he is getting, over what some people hoped he might sign for. Who knows what the future holds. Maybe 5 years from now a UFA who would never have considered coming here 5 years ago....will come play with Connor, maybe even take a discount. So far that effect has worked against us with Lucic...I think McDavid is the main reason he came here.
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CapFriendly has the breakdown of McDavid's contract:
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid
Year 1: $13M signing bonus, $2M base salary
Year 2: 13, 1
Year 3: 12, 1
Year 4: 13, 2
Year 5: 11, 1
Year 6: 10, 1
Year 7: 7, 3
Year 8: 7, 3
Total: $86M in signing bonuses, $14M in base salary
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid
Year 1: $13M signing bonus, $2M base salary
Year 2: 13, 1
Year 3: 12, 1
Year 4: 13, 2
Year 5: 11, 1
Year 6: 10, 1
Year 7: 7, 3
Year 8: 7, 3
Total: $86M in signing bonuses, $14M in base salary
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so why the decline in salary in year 2 and 3, then year 4 is the same as year 1?
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oobga
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Has to do with the opt out possibility I assume? Sept 2019 either side can opt out of year 9 of the agreement, which could kill the 20/21 season, so he drops to 13M that year (12M bonus). I guess they assume if 20/21 isn't opted out of, then it's likely the term of the CBA will just ride out to the 10 year finale, so his salary bumps back up for 21/22 (15M, 13M signing bonus), and then drops again for when the CBA has to be renegotiated no matter what for the 22/23 season.
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The agents are getting smart with structuring these bonuses.
Players with bonuses, payable before a potential lockout begins are smart for the individual players and the NHLPA as a whole. Drai will do the same with his contract.
I suspect that the combined costs of McDavid and Drai's bonuses alone will be a major factor pushing Katz to oppose a lockout.
I don't think there will be another lockout in the league for a long, long time.
Deplorable Lenny
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My god to I ever hope you are right.
The last one almost killed my love for hockey.
Until day 1 of the season
TheBrew
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If a future lockout lasted a whole year wouldn't Mcdavid play the next season for his one million base salary only?
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The refs will adjust though. He will become less effective.
Happens to every generational talent. If they called the game the same as they do for everyone else, they would generate 3-4 PPs/game on their own.
Pointteen
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Maybe at a lockout we can see signing bonuses not affect cap hit and then absolutely destroy the league afterwards.
Just imagine, McDavid, Lucic and Draisaitl on a combined 10 million cap hit. That would cause the downfall of society. Pure anarchy in Toronto and Montreal.
Just imagine, McDavid, Lucic and Draisaitl on a combined 10 million cap hit. That would cause the downfall of society. Pure anarchy in Toronto and Montreal.
oobga
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Interesting chart of the top 5 cap hit %'s vs the next 30 guys over the years.
Actually been going down over the years. Likely when McDavid's contract starts he will be ~16% of cap, so, this chart might actually go up again a bit, like it did back when the last generational/borderline generational guys got their big paydays (OV, Crosby, Malkin).
Big dif between 10 years ago and now is probably how all the middle 6 and 3/4 D have had their salaries inflate over the years as the value of depth and team building to be competitive in the playoffs has become more understood. Perhaps those lower end player salaries will start to drop off again if the 10M cap hit club starts to really grow again thanks to McDavid's deal. I think we've already seen a bit of a different dynamic this summer with so many vets that can still play signing for ~1M. That may have to start leaking over into other tiers of players if the NHLPA doesn't want to use their escalator and force up the escrow %.
Actually been going down over the years. Likely when McDavid's contract starts he will be ~16% of cap, so, this chart might actually go up again a bit, like it did back when the last generational/borderline generational guys got their big paydays (OV, Crosby, Malkin).
Big dif between 10 years ago and now is probably how all the middle 6 and 3/4 D have had their salaries inflate over the years as the value of depth and team building to be competitive in the playoffs has become more understood. Perhaps those lower end player salaries will start to drop off again if the 10M cap hit club starts to really grow again thanks to McDavid's deal. I think we've already seen a bit of a different dynamic this summer with so many vets that can still play signing for ~1M. That may have to start leaking over into other tiers of players if the NHLPA doesn't want to use their escalator and force up the escrow %.
No. This was a major part of the Weber offersheet. Philly tried to make it as intolerable as possible. If the whole 2012-13 season was lost to a lockout then by July 1, 2014 Nashville would have paid $40M for just 82 games of Weber.
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sorry Maple Leafs, your golden child will be in Edmonton or 9 more years.
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So in what year of Mcdavid's contract does he not receive his bonus? Or does he get more than 100 million if there were a lockout that lasted a year?
oobga
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Unless the league dissolves, he gets the amount of salary designated as a signing bonus for the coming season on july 1st every year, regardless if the season is played or not. July 1st 2018 he will get his first bonus cheque for 13M, and he will be paid the remaining 2M through the 18/19 season, and end up with a total of 15M for the year. He can only make less than 100M if 1 or more seasons aren't played. The amount less would likely only be a 1M salary portion if one of the most likely lockout seasons (20/21 or 22/23) actually occurs.
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There almost certainly will be a lockout in 2 (or 3? Can't remember). They are setting it up already.
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It's not unlikely but one positive sign was that the owners were willing to go to the Olympics if the players agreed to not reopen the deal until the end of this CBA. This is a sign that the owners do not have a significant agenda that will drive a long lockout at this point.
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I'm a little surprised we haven't heard about non-guaranteed contracts. I remember right after the last lockout Friedman(I think) was talking about the players know that the next lockout is going to focus on that. Hence why there were some small things that they really pushed for last time.
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