Prospect Info: Maybe too soon (but probably not) 2021 Entry Draft Thread

[Surrounded By Ahos]

So I looked up the last name Suomi, and discovered an old nhl player by the name of Al Suomi. He was the son of a Finnish immigrant from Minnesota who travelled to Chicago after a scout told him he was good at the stick puck.

He played a couple seasons for a team called Chicago Baby Ruth, which apparently existed as a marketing gimmick for the candy bar, and would play before Blackhawks games to help drive up attendance.

After that, he played for another minor league team in Detroit for a couple years before heading back to Chicago to play in the bigs. The teams managed decided to say “f*** Canada” and iced a roster consisting entirely of American players. This only lasted a few games, but it actually f***ing happened. You would think that O6 owners would have more respect for the integrity and history of the game

And just to prove I’m not making all this up, here’s a guy in a Baby Ruth sweater. No idea if it’s Al, though.

 

[SlavinAway]

No it's a legit name. People have it. He's not even the only one in the Liiga.

I bet you too have some James Americas running around there.

Americus Nation

 

[Lempo]

Americus Nation

 

[WreckingCrew]

BIGGUS...

 

[Discipline Daddy]

^The beauty of that scene is that they don't just do the bit and move on. They dedicate a full 5 minutes of movie to a dick joke. Comedic genius at its finest.

 

[Lempo]

^The beauty of that scene is that they don't just do the bit and move on. They dedicate a full 5 minutes of movie to a dick joke. Comedic genius at its finest.

Yes, they really made it a big dick joke.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Yes, they really made it a big dick joke.

Biggest dick joke really

 

[hblueridgegal]

Hope the Canes do their due diligence...maybe trading some of those picks wouldn't be so bad.

 

[VibesAlive]

Well, okay.

 

[Lempo]

Sounds like more are on the way, if we are to believe J.D. Burke.

 

[dogbazinho]

Will make the Scouching stream more interesting. Rod can whip character issues into shape.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Hope the Canes do their due diligence...maybe trading some of those picks wouldn't be so bad.

A bunch of teenagers were mostly trapped inside for a year and many didn't get to play their favorite sport...stupid **** was bound to happen amongst them. Is that a character issue for them all or just "teens do stupid things sometimes" and make sure they learn from it?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

A bunch of teenagers were mostly trapped inside for a year and many didn't get to play their favorite sport...stupid **** was bound to happen amongst them. Is that a character issue for them all or just "teens do stupid things sometimes" and make sure they learn from it?

I think it's more of a reflection of the league as a whole, or at least certain clubs that are extremely wary of controversy after getting burned by various scandals. Probably teams like Arizona (Mitch Miller), Vancouver (Virtanen), and Chicago (harassment scandal) are extra cautious for that reason.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Well, it was a very dumbass thing to do and pretty awful as well. Is it part of a pattern of behavior (probably unknown at this point), a character flaw, or just a one-off thing he'll learn from? Everyone makes mistakes. In most cases, I'm in favor of second chances. But you do have to question the kid's decision-making for being willing to hurt someone like this and when stuff like this can get out so easily these days.

 

[Chrispy]

I think it's more of a reflection of the league as a whole, or at least certain clubs that are extremely wary of controversy after getting burned by various scandals. Probably teams like Arizona (Mitch Miller), Vancouver (Virtanen), and Chicago (harassment scandal) are extra cautious for that reason.

Also, with scouts not being able to travel as much for junior games it makes getting the inside scoop on these kids harder, so scandals may have more impact than they did before.

 

[Tryamw]

Even as someone that at one point was one of said people this draft is going to suffer from so much under scouting by people that follow these guys on HF that I would struggle to name guys beyond the second round. Unless someone is paid to do it for a living i have a hard time eying anyone getting enough views on some prospects this year.

As long as they don't go full Philippe Paradis panic mode again I'm fine with whoever we take minus any major character red flags. I'm taking Mitchell Miller level shit or even some of the stuff with Downie and TDA from when they were in junior.

How About Paradis Phillppe? And his other cousin Pardiso Phillippe.. Or Me? or Tony Conboy.. (Name made up)

 

[GoldiFox]

Owen Power pulls away from crowded NHL Draft field - TSN.ca

Love this 20-30 range for Carolina. Bourgault, Cuelemans, Pinelli, Chibrikov, L'Heureux, Stankoven, and Raty. Still an off-chance that the Canes could snag their own future Vasilevski with Sebastian Cossa. Ville Koivunen down at #79 would be a nice 2nd rounder.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Owen Power pulls away from crowded NHL Draft field - TSN.ca

Love this 20-30 range for Carolina. Bourgault, Cuelemans, Pinelli, Chibrikov, L'Heureux, Stankoven, and Raty. Still an off-chance that the Canes could snag their own future Vasilevski with Sebastian Cossa. Ville Koivunen down at #79 would be a nice 2nd rounder.

Easily take Raty and tell him he doesn’t have any pressure to come to the league in the next two years. Just work on your game and we’ll be ready for you.

 

[HisIceness]

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Sounds noble. he is trying to regain his draft status

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I haven't followed this kid closely.
A) was he thought to be a 1st/2nd round pick before all this?
B) Was this a case of he would definitely still get drafted highly this draft even with the issues?
C) Or is this a case where nobody would touch him except a late round flyer (if at all)?

His tweet seems like he's taking ownership and responsibility which is good. I just can't gauge how much he is really sacrificing here.

 

[GoldiFox]

I haven't followed this kid closely.
A) was he thought to be a 1st/2nd round pick before all this?
B) Was this a case of he would definitely still get drafted highly this draft even with the issues?
C) Or is this a case where nobody would touch him except a late round flyer (if at all)?

His tweet seems like he's taking ownership and responsibility which is good. I just can't gauge how much he is really sacrificing here.

He was ranked #35 on McKenzie's aggregate list. From what I understand most of the details of his current problems surfaced recently so it is hard to gauge.

This is definitely the right thing to do but it is probably the only thing he can do. He runs the risk of an incompetent GM picking him anyway and the whole thing blowing up like Arizona's case last year. He now has the opportunity follow up his words with actions, have a full year to mature/distance himself, and hope to get picked next year with a redemption story.

 

[HisIceness]

A) was he thought to be a 1st/2nd round pick before all this?

I remember seeing his name right around where we are picking during the season in some mock drafts as recently as May.

C) Or is this a case where nobody would touch him except a late round flyer (if at all)?

Likely this, considering the Miller situation last year it's probably fair to say no one was going to take the kid. The Athletic or someone associated with it said something about how the victim didn't think his apology was sincere either.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

A lot of knowledgeable people are still thinking that Lysell slips into the late 20s because of some perceived character issues in regards to arrogance, not dissimilar to Gunler. If he does fall to Carolina, he's an auto-draft in my book. I personally see him as a top-5 player in this draft. Barring that from happening, however, Raty would be a fabulous choice.

 

[Lempo]

I haven't followed this kid closely.
A) was he thought to be a 1st/2nd round pick before all this?
B) Was this a case of he would definitely still get drafted highly this draft even with the issues?
C) Or is this a case where nobody would touch him except a late round flyer (if at all)?

His tweet seems like he's taking ownership and responsibility which is good. I just can't gauge how much he is really sacrificing here.

He will get double the tail because chicks really dig toxic males, and he'll be drafted higher next year than he would have this year because he will be more ready player, and he will have the opportunities that go with the smaller draft number. If he was signed this year he would have slided anyway. If he doesn't film the chicks and share the pics, it's all win for him.

 

[Lempo]

A lot of knowledgeable people are still thinking that Lysell slips into the late 20s because of some perceived character issues in regards to arrogance, not dissimilar to Gunler. If he does fall to Carolina, he's an auto-draft in my book. I personally see him as a top-5 player in this draft. Barring that from happening, however, Raty would be a fabulous choice.

We'll draft our characters issues so we don't have to overpay for Laine.

Let's take Mailloux on round 5. Drafted from SHL, he'll be four years under exclusivity.