Matthews vs Gilmour

[blundluntman]

Gilmour at his best was a 127 point selke winner who also put up 35 points in 21 playoff games all lin one season. Matthews is a great player but it's hard to pass that up

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Gilmour. You go to war with Gilmour. Not so much with Matthews.

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

Gilmour at his best was a 127 point selke winner who also put up 35 points in 21 playoff games all lin one season. Matthews is a great player but it's hard to pass that up

When Gilmour hit those numbers he was tied for 7th in points. I want to vote for him, but have to go with Matthews.

 

[blundluntman]

When Gilmour hit those numbers he was tied for 7th in points. I want to vote for him, but have to go with Matthews.

He was 7th in scoring while also being the best 2 way forward in the league to be exact

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

He was 7th in scoring while also being the best 2 way forward in the league to be exact

Tied for 7th to be exact. Like I said, I want to pick him, but just don't see him being better than Matthews at his peak.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Id rather root for Gilmour and have my culture set by him. Matthews is the better player. Voted Gilmour.

Um are you familiar with Gilmour's history?

 

[psycat]

Peak is likely Matthews but so far he came close to that level for a single year, Fedorov vibes but obviously not as accomplished and "no show" in the playoffs.

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

Peak is likely Matthews but so far he came close to that level for a single year, Fedorov vibes but obviously not as accomplished and "no show" in the playoffs.

I'd take Fedorov over Gilmour as well.

 

[psycat]

I'd take Fedorov over Gilmour as well.

So would I but I mean't more so that he get's massively overrated based on one year, something that is currently happening with Matthews unless he can be anywhere close to that level again.

(Problem with Fedorov is people lumping him together with way superior players like Forsberg, Sakic, Yzerman.)

 

[82Ninety42011]

I'm surprised at vote but would love a breakdown of whose voting for each. I'd bet most everyone under 30 voting Matthews everyone above Gilmour. One thing no one ever questioned was Gilmour's heart can't say same about Matthews.

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

So would I but I mean't more so that he get's massively overrated based on one year, something that is currently happening with Matthews unless he can be anywhere close to that level again.

To be fair, Gilmour's numbers outside of the 127 point season weren't exceptional. Like Fedorov, he hit 100 points twice in slightly less than 20 years in the league. And I'd say the same about Forsberg: not in the Sakic or Yzerman tier.

I'm surprised at vote but would love a breakdown of whose voting for each. I'd bet most everyone under 30 voting Matthews everyone above Gilmour. One thing no one ever questioned was Gilmour's heart can't say same about Matthews.

I saw Gilmour enough, being on the wrong side of 40. Great player, just never thought he was the best or even fifth best player in the league.

 

[wintersej]

Um are you familiar with Gilmour's history?

Jesus, no, I didn't know about any of that.

 

[82Ninety42011]

I saw Gilmour enough, being on the wrong side of 40. Great player, just never thought he was the best or even fifth best player in the league.

I agree with you there but he just had the it factor and was no slouch. I'm building team I'm taking him personally. However I can understand others choosing Matthews I suppose.

 

[bobholly39]

Matthews will end up with the better prime and career in my opinion - but for peak Gilmour is kind of insane.

If I were to rank the top 100 players in history - Gilmour isn't one of them.
If I were to rank the top 2 consecutive peak seasons - including playoffs - in history, Gilmour is....top 25? Maybe higher? He has an insane stretch between 92-93/93-94 season+playoff combo.

I voted Matthews because I assume this poll is about the long run, and I think prime Matthews + career is surpassing Gilmour. But for that 2 year peak - Gilmour is hard to beat.

 

[sr edler]

Gilmour, fairly easily. Matthews is only better in theory, not in real life.

Areas where Matthews beats out Gilmour, which are skating, size and goal scoring, he only really uses one of them (goal scoring) to his advantage anyways, and mostly in a more cozy environment (regular season).

Put a decent goal scorer on Gilmour's wing and that element is nullified to Matthews' disadvantage.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Gilmour, fairly easily. Matthews is only better in theory, not in real life.

Areas where Matthews beats out Gilmour, which are skating, size and goal scoring, he only really uses one of them (goal scoring) to his advantage anyways, and mostly in a more cozy environment (regular season).

Put a decent goal scorer on Gilmour's wing and that element is nullified to Matthews' disadvantage.

"Gilmour and another good player is better than just Matthews"

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I have a lot of favourite Doug Gilmour moments, goal in the Stanley Cup final for Calgary, goal in the Canada Cup, scoring the tying goal in game 7 against Detroit with 2 mins left, his OT goal against Joseph, stetting up Wendel Clark in game 6 against LA in the Conference finals in the last min. And this one. Tacking Stu Grimson, one of the most feared players in the NHL at that time when he went nuts in a game. The guy was fearless. Heart of a Lion. Can't see Matthews doing this ever.