Matthews Vs Dahlin Vs Pettersson

[Aqualung]

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He was drafted in 2017 and played 2018-2019 which is one year afterwards.

Regardless of how you view it, I hope you can tell that Barzal had another year after his draft year before his rookie season.

His D+1 was in the SEL

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Nope. 17-18 was his D+1

Barzal was drafted in 2015 and his Calder season was 2017-2018.

Pettersson was drafted in 2017 and his rookie season is 2018-2019.

How is this even a point in contention?

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

His D+1 was in the SEL

See my above post.

It doesn't really matter. The point is that Barzal had another year before beginning his Calder season. Pettersson had 1 year between seasons, Barzal had two.

 

[780il]

Dahlin

Thank you, next

 

[TeddyBare]

I do like what the Dahlin is doing at 18 in a difficult league for defense to develop.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

When you look at league scoring, Pettersson's rookie year isn't even close to Matthews'.

Dahlin's doing pretty good on the offensive side of things, so I can see why he's getting votes in here. But Matthews is just so much better than Pettersson it's not even funny, we got Barzal 2.0 in the making here.

How’s the fishing going. Getting a few bites I see.

 

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When you look at league scoring, Pettersson's rookie year isn't even close to Matthews'.

Dahlin's doing pretty good on the offensive side of things, so I can see why he's getting votes in here. But Matthews is just so much better than Pettersson it's not even funny, we got Barzal 2.0 in the making here.

Matthews scored 40 goals as a 19 yo rookie. Pettersson has 27 and looks done for the season (1 goal in the last month). Matthews is also way bigger and stronger, and the superior goal scorer by a huge margin. Pettersson was way overhyped.

Dahlin >>> Pettersson

 

[BlueBaron]

I do like what the Dahlin is doing at 18 in a difficult league for defense to develop.

It's hard to deny he is pretty amazing. So long as no one is calling him Bobby Orr or handing him the Norris this year I think we can all agree he lived up to most of the sane hype.

 

[KidLine93]

You’re comparing Barzal’s d+2 season playing behind Tavares to Pettersson d+1 season splitting top minutes with Horvat.

they are comparing rookie seasons. I never said Barzal will be better than Pettersson at their peak. And to be fair many of you are comparing Pettersson's D+1 season to Matthews true rookie season coming out of the draft. Not sure why you haven't pointed that out to the other posters but chose to point that out on this post. Is there a reason why?

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

they are comparing rookie seasons. I never said Barzal will be better than Pettersson at their peak. And to be fair many of you are comparing Pettersson's D+1 season to Matthews true rookie season coming out of the draft. Not sure why you haven't pointed that out to the other posters but chose to point that out on this post. Is there a reason why?

You are missing the point. An extra year of development before entering the NHL is huge. Compare Pettersson’s next season with Barzal’s rookie season if you want an accurate comparison.

And many of us are comparing Pettersson’s rookie season to Matthews’ sophomore season since they’re the same age. They’re remarkably close.

 

[Healthy DiPietro]

Matthews scored 40 goals as a 19 yo rookie. Pettersson has 27 and looks done for the season (1 goal in the last month). Matthews is also way bigger and stronger, and the superior goal scorer by a huge margin. Pettersson was way overhyped.

Pettersson has 8 points in his 8 last games, how is he done for the season?

Currently pacing to outscore Matthews's rookie season in 12 less games on a lower scoring team.

 

[IPS]

Pettersson has 8 points in his 8 last games, how is he done for the season?

Currently pacing to outscore Matthews's rookie season in 12 less games on a lower scoring team.

You don't have any idea how to adjust for league scoring, do you?

 

[Pyrophorus]

EP is the only one with a track record of elevating his game in playoffs while Matthews hides…. Dahlin still for me

Where did you get that?

 

[LemonSauceD]

Dahlin
Petey
Matthews

 

[Healthy DiPietro]

You don't have any idea how to adjust for league scoring, do you?

Uhm, yes?

16/17 Leafs - 3.05 GF/GP, 250 GF
18/19 Canucks - 2.71 GF/GP, on pace for 222 GF

 

[filinski77]

Pettersson has 8 points in his 8 last games, how is he done for the season?

Currently pacing to outscore Matthews's rookie season in 12 less games on a lower scoring team.

Pettersson is like 33rd in the league in points/gp and 36th in goals/gp so far this season. In Matthews rookie season he was 31st in points/gp and 4th in goals/gp

 

[Healthy DiPietro]

Pettersson is like 33rd in the league in points/gp and 36th in goals/gp so far this season. In Matthews rookie season he was 31st in points/gp and 4th in goals/gp

I'm not arguing Matthews isn't the better goal scorer, but EP is probably the better point producer considering the Leafs scored 0.34 more goals per game back then. Point per game ranks for players don't say as much as the total production of their surroundings.

 

[KidLine93]

You are missing the point. An extra year of development before entering the NHL is huge. Compare Pettersson’s next season with Barzal’s rookie season if you want an accurate comparison.

And many of us are comparing Pettersson’s rookie season to Matthews’ sophomore season since they’re the same age. They’re remarkably close.

Thats what I'm saying, you called out my post but didn't call out any of the posts comparing petterssons stats to matthews rookie season. Seemed weird. If you look at my earliest post I said that Pettersson should be compared to matthews 2nd season and that their stats were very close, hence why Matthews shouldn't be rated so much higher than EP. And my original post was just refuting the guys point where he said EP's season this year is more impressive than Barzal's rookie year, the numbers indicated otherwise. I'm well aware barzal was in his D+2

 

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Pettersson has 8 points in his 8 last games, how is he done for the season?

Currently pacing to outscore Matthews's rookie season in 12 less games on a lower scoring team.

How is he doing? Not scoring 40 goals in his rookie season as a 19 yo, this is for sure. Also not going to the playoffs.

 

[Smeagoal]

How is he doing? Not scoring 40 goals in his rookie season as a 19 yo, this is for sure. Also not going to the playoffs.

That poster you quoted is replying to your previous statement which was false.

Also, I don't think you comprehend the concept that individuals don't take teams to the playoffs, it's a collective.

 

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That poster you quoted is replying to your previous statement which was false.

Also, I don't think you comprehend the concept that individuals don't take teams to the playoffs, it's a collective.

Funny, Toronto has not missed the playoffs since they drafted Auston Matthews. Before Matthews, yeah...

 

[Regal]

Funny, Toronto has not missed the playoffs since they drafted Auston Matthews. Before Matthews, yeah...

Yup the difference was all Matthews. That's why you always vote against Marner/Andersen/Nylander in polls, right?

 

[Los merengues]

The players voted Matthews third in terms of who they would want to start a franchise with, FWIW.

Worth exactly nothing

 

[Smeagoal]

Funny, Toronto has not missed the playoffs since they drafted Auston Matthews. Before Matthews, yeah...

Kindly direct your attention below.

Yup the difference was all Matthews. That's why you always vote against Marner/Andersen/Nylander in polls, right?

 

[KingTux]

Dahlin
Matthews
EP