Matthews Vs Dahlin Vs Pettersson

[Ace of Hades]

lmfao.

Matthews carried his team to the playoffs and was 2nd in the league in goals in his rookie year.

Pettersson will be hard pressed to ever reach Matthews' level in his rookie year.

Garbage post.

Matthews carried his team to the playoffs? So Marner, Nylander, Reilly and Andersen were chop liver?

Pettersson has already bested Matthews rookie level season with you know being PPG and is only six points behind while playing sixteen less games. Let that sink in for you. and... Accompanied with the fact that Matthews played for a better team surrounded with better support.

EP>Matthews rookie season wise.

EP> Matthews moving forward.

Deal with it.

 

[Ace of Hades]

let's also keep in mind his most common wingers this year have been Marleau and Kapanen,

I sure as hell wish Horvat had those linemates compared to what he's playing with.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Garbage post.

Matthews carried his team to the playoffs? So Marner, Nylander, Reilly and Andersen were chop liver?

Pettersson has already bested Matthews rookie level season with you know being PPG and is only six points behind while playing sixteen less games. Let that sink in for you. and... Accompanied with the fact that Matthews played for a better team surrounded with better support.

EP>Matthews rookie season wise.

EP> Matthews moving forward.

Deal with it.

Nope. Pettersson is 32nd in points per game as a D+2 player, Matthews was 28th as a D+1 rookie, and 21st as a D+2 player. You have to take into account that scoring is up. I wouldn't say EP can never be better, but I don't think he is now

 

[Team Cozens]

Dahlin.

 

[member 147413]

It depends which Matthews you get. He’s looked very streaky this year.

Absolutely unstoppable for a stretch of games, then invisible for a stretch.

Dahlin and Petterson also have similar consistency issues, but a ton of talent.

It’s a tough choice and you could spin it any way, you get an incredible player no matter what.

 

[6ix]

This is possibly the dumbest crap I've read on here.

1) Blaming the player for getting injured
2) The fact that Matthews got injured in the 2 subsequent years.

Be ashamed for writing this post.

Nah.

 

[6ix]

You're trying to argue my projection of his ceiling with an arbitrary 82 game sample size that is nearly identical?

If he could ever stay healthy, be less prone to streaky/disinterested play and improve his decidedly average playmaking skills, I'd project him higher. This season hasn't inspired a lot of confidence considering he routinely plays against 2nd pairing defenseman while Marner/Tavares take on the toughest assignments.

What a reach he’s on a pace for over 90 points at 21 years old and that’s his ceiling?

The injury argument is valid but it’s also valid against Petterson too as he’s projecting to battle injuries even more. Matthews didn’t miss a game his rookie year.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Dahlin.

The only types of forwards I take over him(and when I say this I mean generational sure bet best player types from day 1, don't get your nickers in a not) are the McDavids, Crosby's, Lemieux's, etc.

I also have a bias towards exceptional to generational defenseman tho so...

 

[Canucks LB]

Matthews
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Dahlin
Pettersson

Barzal 2.0 won't crack 60 points next year, not to mention he's just awful defensively.

This might be the worst post I seen in a long time.
What kind of take is this?
Did you just say EP40 is awful defensively?, His defensive game is better than his offensive game, as a rookie.

That's how good he is, yikes

 

[LeafMaple]

Matthews is the easy option

 

[KidLine93]

One guy has done it, the other 2 have not.

Pettersson is producing at the same rate as matthews was last year, except Petterrson plays with a worse team. None of these guys have done anything yet, were still waiting for Matthews to break that elusive 70 point milestone so he will finally be worth that monster contract.

 

[KidLine93]

Maybe because the fact that Barzal had Tavares as support and mainly played on the second line, while EP is on the top line on a team devoid of talent and is at PPG. Should be fairly obvious who is having the better rookie season.

Boeser is good.
Horvat faces the tough matchups
EP is at an unsustainable shooting percentage. I like him but Barzal had a more impressive rookie season

 

[KidLine93]

Garbage post.

Matthews carried his team to the playoffs? So Marner, Nylander, Reilly and Andersen were chop liver?

Pettersson has already bested Matthews rookie level season with you know being PPG and is only six points behind while playing sixteen less games. Let that sink in for you. and... Accompanied with the fact that Matthews played for a better team surrounded with better support.

EP>Matthews rookie season wise.

EP> Matthews moving forward.

Deal with it.

pettersson entered the league a year after his draft, you would have to compare him to Matthews 2nd year would you not? In that case its pretty comparable

 

[DR P00P]

Hahahahaha! The Envy against Leafs is amazing on this site! Dahlin having more votes than Magnificent Lmfao! Oh dear

 

[Pyrophorus]

Pettersson is producing at the same rate as matthews was last year, except Petterrson plays with a worse team. None of these guys have done anything yet, were still waiting for Matthews to break that elusive 70 point milestone so he will finally be worth that monster contract.

Yeah, he won't get 3 more pts...

 

[KidLine93]

Yeah, he won't get 3 more pts...

the fact that were still waiting for him to do so shows he hasn't proven anything yet...you missed the whole point

 

[34]

Based on the very limited sample sizes,

Dahlin

Pettersson
Matthews

Limited for Perrersson and Dahlin yes. Not even a full nhl season.

But Matthews, 40 goal Calder winner at 19 years old.

Matthews AINEC here

 

[howkie]

Limited for Perrersson and Dahlin yes. Not even a full nhl season.

But Matthews, 40 goal Calder winner at 19 years old.

Matthews AINEC here

EP is the only one with a track record of elevating his game in playoffs while Matthews hides…. Dahlin still for me

 

[Ace of Hades]

Boeser is good.
Horvat faces the tough matchups
EP is at an unsustainable shooting percentage. I like him but Barzal had a more impressive rookie season

Read mine and nowhereman's following statements as we explain why EP has the more impressive rookie season than Barzal's.

I agree with what you said on post #111

Nope. Pettersson is 32nd in points per game as a D+2 player, Matthews was 28th as a D+1 rookie, and 21st as a D+2 player. You have to take into account that scoring is up. I wouldn't say EP can never be better, but I don't think he is now

Even if you want to argue that, it doesn't change the fact that Matthews has been put in a better position to succeed in the form of having better support. While scoring increase argument is valid, the fact is EP's production is a lot higher than Matthews rookie season.

 

[IPS]

Limited for Perrersson and Dahlin yes. Not even a full nhl season.

But Matthews, 40 goal Calder winner at 19 years old.

Matthews AINEC here

When you look at league scoring, Pettersson's rookie year isn't even close to Matthews'.

Dahlin's doing pretty good on the offensive side of things, so I can see why he's getting votes in here. But Matthews is just so much better than Pettersson it's not even funny, we got Barzal 2.0 in the making here.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Limited for Perrersson and Dahlin yes. Not even a full nhl season.

But Matthews, 40 goal Calder winner at 19 years old.

Matthews AINEC here

The logic is that Dahlin already looks like a top pairing dman and will play in all scenarios and maybe contend for the Norris for a long time. He’s already made Buffalo significantly better.

Pettersson is matching Matthews’ 2nd season on arguably a worse roster. I prefer his potential based on his high hockey IQ.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Boeser is good.
Horvat faces the tough matchups
EP is at an unsustainable shooting percentage. I like him but Barzal had a more impressive rookie season

You’re comparing Barzal’s d+2 season playing behind Tavares to Pettersson d+1 season splitting top minutes with Horvat.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

You’re comparing Barzal’s d+2 season playing behind Tavares to Pettersson d+1 season splitting top minutes with Horvat.

This is Petterson's D+2

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

This is Petterson's D+2

?

He was drafted in 2017 and played 2018-2019 which is one year afterwards.

Regardless of how you view it, I hope you can tell that Barzal had another year after his draft year before his rookie season.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

?

He was drafted in 2017 and played 2018-2019 which is one year afterwards.

Nope. 17-18 was his D+1