Waived: Matt Nieto (SJS) - Claimed by Colorado

[zombie kopitar]

This is a little reminiscent of Andrew Cogliano...it still might take him a few years to be productive, but guys with elite speed and decent hockey sense will usually find a spot somewhere.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Rangers pls

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Perfect project for Babcock. Not sure Toronto position though. Hope we get him.

We have no room for him, with plenty of winger prospects on the way and he's just a meh bottom 6 winger. Not exactly that hard to find.

 

[Acetylene]

Interesting waiver player to say the least. Doubt the Leafs are interested though.

 

[19sharks19]

Hoping the Oilers claim him...can use his speed...played well under TM in the past.

LW depth:
Lucic
Maroon
Nieto
Pouliot/Hendricks

This I can see. I actually was thinking the exact same thing when I heard the news.

Still strange though. Not that i am against the waiving of Nieto but, Nieto goes and trash Haley stays AND, we can't even get him out of the starting lineup as definitely a DeBoer fav/buddy and Nieto wasn't ????

 

[SabresSociety]

We'd have to send someone down but i'd be about it!

Grant, hopefully

 

[ottawa]

Dang, SJ fans said he was untouchable a few seasons ago.

Untouchable? I highly doubt that was said about Nieto, even by shark fans.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Untouchable? I highly doubt that was said about Nieto, even by shark fans.

Yah. Don't remember anyone saying that. There may have been some comments about his value being more to our team than the return we would get but not even close to being untouchable.

He is a solid bottom-6 player. Fast and solid defensively. Can PK as well. Just don't expect much on offense. He shows flashes sometimes but has had issues finishing.

 

[SharksFan1]

Dang, SJ fans said he was untouchable a few seasons ago.

That is probably because most SJ fans believed he still had room to develop. Unfortunately he has not really improved much in the last couple years, and his offense is pretty abysmal. Now the Sharks have several young forwards looking to or have already surpassed him, and there just isn't enough room for him anymore.

 

[weastern bias]

I don't quite get it, but at least he'll get to actually play

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

The benefits of being the basement dweller.

If Arizona passes, Sakic better pick him up. Rattie was up in the air, but Nieto is a no brainer for the Avs.

doesn't colorado get first dibs since they are last?

 

[exporta]

Yah. Don't remember anyone saying that. There may have been some comments about his value being more to our team than the return we would get but not even close to being untouchable.

He is a solid bottom-6 player. Fast and solid defensively. Can PK as well. Just don't expect much on offense. He shows flashes sometimes but has had issues finishing.

Clearly that was the case. He's not going to return them anything if picked up on waivers.

Interesting demotion. Actually think he'd fit really well on Pittsburgh but it's not happening.

 

[CrypTic]

doesn't colorado get first dibs since they are last?

Per the NHL stats/team page, CO should get first dibs, followed by AZ, BUF, and WPG since they go by point percentage:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/team?aggre...62017&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=pointPctg

Not sure what the tie breakers are for the next group of teams at .500

 

[Foppberg]

Pick him up Sakic. What could it hurt? We already suck.

 

[AvsGuy]

Untouchable? I highly doubt that was said about Nieto, even by shark fans.

Yah. Don't remember anyone saying that. There may have been some comments about his value being more to our team than the return we would get but not even close to being untouchable.

He is a solid bottom-6 player. Fast and solid defensively. Can PK as well. Just don't expect much on offense. He shows flashes sometimes but has had issues finishing.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=88841303&postcount=51

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=88864229&postcount=131

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=88874191&postcount=142

 

[Foppberg]

^ LOL, that's awesome.

 

[covfefe]

Untouchable? I highly doubt that was said about Nieto, even by shark fans.

I'll leave out usernames so as to not be 'flaming'

I would much rather trade a guy like Couture or Pavelski or even Vlasic or Burns whose value around the league is approximately their actual real value to a team than a guy like...Nieto or Hertl whose value is much much higher than the average person realizes. Case and point: Nieto is one of the BEST possession players in the league right now but getting awful luck and no bounces so his point totals look ugly.

In response to the above (lul):

This is damn near poetry. Well said.

I couldn't give a crap about how underwhelmed you are, because I have less than zero interest in trading Nieto.

Nieto, Hertl, Mueller, Goldobin are off limits.

And these posts just for kicks:

If you watch Nieto, he's the best player on his line most nights.

Nieto is absolutely a top 6 forward. The fact that you don't know that means you haven't watched him play. He's a 3 zone player who is probably one of the fastest skaters in the league and has already vastly outpaced even the best expectations set for him.

 

[weastern bias]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=88841303&postcount=51

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=88864229&postcount=131

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=88874191&postcount=142

Those posts are also from 3 years ago when he was a rookie, every fan base overrates their exciting youth

 

[Vaasa]

I couldn't believe Wingels or Haley were playing over Nieto. But it's been obvious that DeBoer doesn't like him for some reason. So I'm glad to see him waived to get playing time elsewhere.

But just completely stupid asset management by the Sharks. Wingels or Haley should have been traded or waived first IMO.

 

[covfefe]

Those posts are also from 3 years ago when he was a rookie, every fan base overrates their exciting youth

Since they are from 3 years ago they are now null and void? One poster said it was unlikely anyone had ever said that about Nieto, they were promptly proven wrong with a variety of examples. Now you're sidestepping>....

typical

 

[crowi]

This seems stupid by SJ. I think he will get claimed quickly.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Every fanbase overrates their young players. The fact that some of you feel the need to condescendingly point out the obvious doesn't make any sense to me.

Not everyone memorizes what other people say about players.

 

[Foppberg]

I mean, true everyone does it but it's still funny

 

[wonton15]

Claim and send down Megna and Chaput

 

[weastern bias]

I'm just saying it's not a big deal if people got overzealous about the value of their organization's best prospects when they are still prospects

If you took those posts seriously three years ago then you fell for the hype, if you want to assess a young player's value watch them yourself, as their team's fans are very likely to pump up their worth