News: Matt Murray on LTIR as he is out indefinitely - Leafs cap issue solved?

[bossram]

Neat arrangement. I wonder if this changes anything in regards to their interest in Karlsson.
Is Muzzin playing in October? Or is he toast?

Muzzin's been done for a long time. It's unfortunate, but his NHL career is over.

The Leafs are not in the Karlsson conversation. Even with Murray on LTIR, they still need to move out $2M in cap allocation.

 

[kmwtrucks]

so hard to confirm concussions, feels like a hand shake deal. as long as he says he does not feel well there is nothing the nhl can do.

 

[bossram]

They should lose their first for circumventing the cap.

*Guy is injured and put on LTIR*

You: cAp CiRcUmVeNtIoN!!!

 

[Guffman]

Why would a healthy player agree to this.

Murray is getting $8M base salary this year. Why wouldn't he want to preserve all of that rather than getting bought out and netting less cash?

 

[notbias]

Muzzin's been done for a long time. It's unfortunate, but his NHL career is over.

The Leafs are not in the Karlsson conversation. Even with Murray on LTIR, they still need to move out $2M in cap allocation.

They essentially just need to waive Gio/Timmins, they are fine.

 

[herzausstein]

I think it's more people finding it very convenient that he stays on LTIR when they need the capspace.

Either way, im assuming if he is on LTIR to start the season his prognosis for playing again is grim as they would need to make capspace for him midyear if he were to come back.

 

[Guffman]

*Guy is injured and put on LTIR*

You: cAp CiRcUmVeNtIoN!!!

I think the discussion here is that Murray declared himself available to play a few months ago but now, he's being deemed unfit to play when Toronto is in a bad cap situation?

It's... interesting.

 

[notbias]

Side note, if being out long-term and resting will help Murray, he is still young enough to make a comeback.

I doubt that is the case, but it isn't like he is 35 and will miss a season.

 

[bossram]

That's not what's happening lol

I mean, yes it literally is.

People here are incredulous that Matt Murray could possibly be injured.

 

[Curufinwe]

He was healthy enough to play in the playoffs

He played zero minutes in the playoffs.

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[bossram]

They essentially just need to waive Gio/Timmins, they are fine.

Gio's not getting waived, and is only $800k anyway.

Sure, they can waive Timmins, but I think that would be a mistake as he can actually be useful.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I mean, yes it literally is.

People here are incredulous that Matt Murray could possibly be injured.

Unless he got injured after season ended, then yes it’s odd.

 

[bossram]

I think the discussion here is that Murray declared himself available to play a few months ago but now, he's being deemed unfit to play when Toronto is in a bad cap situation?

It's... interesting.

Is is possible Murray was/is injured doing something in the offseason? I'd say very reasonably.

This guy got injured like twice in warmup last season.

 

[NateTheGreat]

What a disaster for the Leafs. They need goaltending in cup contending years and they took on a guy who is always hurt. Congrats they got a 3rd and 7th.

They also spent a bunch of assets at last years deadline and got subpar goaltending from Sammy in the playoffs. I hope Woll is the answer for the Leafs otherwise it’s back to square one for the goaltending issue.

 

[HabsQC]

IMO The perfect trade for them would be Tavares out for cap relief , but it's impossible because NMC

 

[notbias]

Gio's not getting waived, and is only $800k anyway.

Sure, they can waive Timmins, but I think that would be a mistake as he can actually be useful.

That's why I mentioned Gio, not sure they will, but I'd rather not waive Timmins... the smart thing would have not been signing Reaves, but oh well.

They can run a 20 man roster as is and try to trade someone like Timmins, and I think that's what we may see.

 

[bossram]

Unless he got injured after season ended, then yes it’s odd.

I'd say it is very reasonable a guy who hurt himself like twice in warmups, was also injured in some kind of offseason activity.

 

[Golden_Jet]

He played zero minutes in the playoffs.

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He was cleared to play, and was the backup goalie in the last game.

 

[Curufinwe]

About as credible as Hossa's hockey equipment allergy.

So, very credible.

It's amazing how ignorant macho hockey fans can be about the dangers of taking powerful drugs like Cyclosporine long term.

‘Body says you have to stop’: Marian Hossa speaks about the painful skin condition that ended his career

Marian Hossa is no longer a Blackhawk, but he will always love his years with Chicago

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“I didn’t go even to the dinner last evening before the final because I’m in my room and I’m just in my shorts,” he said. “It was like my skin was in terrible condition. A doctor away from the Blackhawks, the team doctor for Europe, they’re looking at me. He’s like you have to do something with this because it’s not right. I was like, ‘I know, man.'”

Hossa has pictures of his skin from around that time, and was willing to show a few. In them, he has red blotches all over his feet and legs. The redness of each blotch varies. Some are darker, some are lighter, but they are plentiful.

When Hossa returned to Chicago from the tournament, he went to see another specialist. This one recommended taking Cyclosporine, an immunosuppressive drug.

“That’s how I survived the year,” Hossa said.

The medication would also spell the end of his career.
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But during the 2016-17 season, he didn’t care what people thought. The eczema was the worst it had ever been. It covered the front and back of his body. It leaked pus. It bled. It ended up on his bedsheets.

“After the yellow and then the blood and then after it, everything is all over,” Hossa said. “The wife washing the sheets all the time. She’s not happy too. So there’s different things. It didn’t just affect my hockey life, but my life away from hockey. I said I think this is putting to a different level where this is not right.”

Hossa’s appearance bothered him, but he got used to it. The itching was another matter. That was uncontrollable, especially in the evening.

“Oh, yeah, yeah, man, it itched,” Hossa said. “I learned how to handle the itching during the day, but the worst thing is at night because when you sleep. My wife sometimes hold my hand. It’s like, ‘You’re scratching yourself again.’ After you wake it up, it’s like bloody sheets or something. So, yeah, there were those times.”

The Cyclosporine reduced some of the itching and the symptoms, but it wasn’t perfect. It also complicated Hossa’s life in other ways. For one, Hossa had to take three pills in the morning and three at night.

The drug can be so dangerous the FDA has given it a black box warning. Some of the possible side effects include an increased risk of serious infections, higher blood pressure, kidney disease, tumor and skin cancer. Hossa went to Northwestern Memorial Hospital for testing every two weeks.

“The thing is thanks to God I didn’t feel anything different, effects,” Hossa said. “That’s why I went every two weeks to the hospital to take the blood.”

 

[Liver King]

Hope the NHL investigates this

 

[Golden_Jet]

I'd say it is very reasonable a guy who hurt himself like twice in warmups, was also injured in some kind of offseason activity.

Got a link

 

[bossram]

That's why I mentioned Gio, not sure they will, but I'd rather not waive Timmins... the smart thing would have not been signing Reaves, but oh well.

They can run a 20 man roster as is and try to trade someone like Timmins, and I think that's what we may see.

Bolded, yeah.

 

[howlman]

Leafs could have just.. not traded for this contract lol.

Thanks Dubas

 

[LOFIN]

I mean, yes it literally is.

People here are incredulous that Matt Murray could possibly be injured.

Considering he was healthy in the playoffs, yes it's curious. Had he still been injured, I think people would find it more palatable.

Of course maybe he sprained his ankle while enjoying the beach.

 

[Curufinwe]

He was cleared to play, and was the backup goalie in the last game.

You know how many NHL players have been cleared to play and then suffered from debilitating concussion symptoms that ended their careers down the line? A lot.