Player Discussion Matt Boldy

[AKL]

Crazy how a guy who is injured can’t score 3 in a game.

He played only 7 fewer games before the age of 22 than Boldy has so far, and he's allegedly the much better goal scorer

 

[TaLoN]

He played only 7 fewer games before the age of 22 than Boldy has so far, and he's allegedly the much better goal scorer

4 career hats vs 1 career hat. The guy with 4 has played fewer career games.

 

[Wasted Talent]

4 career hats vs 1 career hat. The guy with 4 has played fewer career games.

But Boldy has "only" 3 hat tricks though.

 

[TaLoN]

But Boldy has "only" 3 hat tricks though.

Sorry, meant 3... lol

 

[Digitalbooya]

He played only 7 fewer games before the age of 22 than Boldy has so far, and he's allegedly the much better goal scorer

This season:

Boldy 74gp 28g
Caufield 46gp 26g (42g per 74 game pace)

Last 2 seasons:
Caufield 113gp 49g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Career:
Caufield 123gp 53g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Surely even you could figure that Caufield’s goal scoring is much better.

You used the age as the marker, but when you look at D+2 and D+3 you see that Caufield played significantly more games at a younger age. Then D+4 Boldy finally caught up in games in a season where Caufield was injured, but on pace for over 40 goals and could have been pushing 50.

I still think it isn’t close. A stupid stat like hat tricks before age 22 by Americans doesn’t change that Caufield is significantly better at scoring goals.

 

[MK9]

This season:

Boldy 74gp 28g
Caufield 46gp 26g (42g per 74 game pace)

Last 2 seasons:
Caufield 113gp 49g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Career:
Caufield 123gp 53g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Surely even you could figure that Caufield’s goal scoring is much better.

You used the age as the marker, but when you look at D+2 and D+3 you see that Caufield played significantly more games at a younger age. Then D+4 Boldy finally caught up in games in a season where Caufield was injured, but on pace for over 40 goals and could have been pushing 50.

I still think it isn’t close. A stupid stat like hat tricks before age 22 by Americans doesn’t change that Caufield is significantly better at scoring goals.

Kind of an oversell there.

 

[Wasted Talent]

This season:

Boldy 74gp 28g
Caufield 46gp 26g (42g per 74 game pace)

Last 2 seasons:
Caufield 113gp 49g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Career:
Caufield 123gp 53g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Surely even you could figure that Caufield’s goal scoring is much better.

You used the age as the marker, but when you look at D+2 and D+3 you see that Caufield played significantly more games at a younger age. Then D+4 Boldy finally caught up in games in a season where Caufield was injured, but on pace for over 40 goals and could have been pushing 50.

I still think it isn’t close. A stupid stat like hat tricks before age 22 by Americans doesn’t change that Caufield is significantly better at scoring goals.

Maybe, but only one of those players has paced 100 goal per 82 over a 9 game stretch and it isn't Caufield.

Seriously though, neither player is a finished product yet. Too early to tell.

 

[MuckOG]

This season:

Boldy 74gp 28g
Caufield 46gp 26g (42g per 74 game pace)

Last 2 seasons:
Caufield 113gp 49g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Career:
Caufield 123gp 53g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Surely even you could figure that Caufield’s goal scoring is much better.

You used the age as the marker, but when you look at D+2 and D+3 you see that Caufield played significantly more games at a younger age. Then D+4 Boldy finally caught up in games in a season where Caufield was injured, but on pace for over 40 goals and could have been pushing 50.

I still think it isn’t close. A stupid stat like hat tricks before age 22 by Americans doesn’t change that Caufield is significantly better at scoring goals.

Caufield is more of a one trick pony. Until he can add other elements to his game other than goal scoring, I still prefer Boldy.

 

[57special]

Nothing against Caufield, who’s game has transferred to the NHL far better than I thought it would, but I would far rather have Boldy. This year we are getting a glimpse of how effective he can be in puck battles, with his improved strength and long stick. He will get even stronger, and be a lot more like Mark Stone than I thought he would be.

Caufield simply doesn’t play defense at anything like that level. He is a one way forward….nothing wrong with that. Goal scorers are always in demand. He is giving up 7-8” to Boldy, and probably about 30 lbs… it’s amazing that he can do what he is doing. Caufield still has the better shot, till Boldy proves otherwise.

 

[BagHead]

This season:

Boldy 74gp 28g
Caufield 46gp 26g (42g per 74 game pace)

Last 2 seasons:
Caufield 113gp 49g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Career:
Caufield 123gp 53g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Surely even you could figure that Caufield’s goal scoring is much better.

You used the age as the marker, but when you look at D+2 and D+3 you see that Caufield played significantly more games at a younger age. Then D+4 Boldy finally caught up in games in a season where Caufield was injured, but on pace for over 40 goals and could have been pushing 50.

I still think it isn’t close. A stupid stat like hat tricks before age 22 by Americans doesn’t change that Caufield is significantly better at scoring goals.

You don't need to prove anything, they're just messing with you. It's clear from looking at the simple stat line alone that Caufield is a least a bit better of a goal scorer.

I'd take Boldy from the perspective of playing the whole game, but Caufield is a better goal scorer.

 

[thestonedkoala]

This season:

Boldy 74gp 28g
Caufield 46gp 26g (42g per 74 game pace)

Last 2 seasons:
Caufield 113gp 49g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Career:
Caufield 123gp 53g
Boldy 121gp 43g

Surely even you could figure that Caufield’s goal scoring is much better.

You used the age as the marker, but when you look at D+2 and D+3 you see that Caufield played significantly more games at a younger age. Then D+4 Boldy finally caught up in games in a season where Caufield was injured, but on pace for over 40 goals and could have been pushing 50.

I still think it isn’t close. A stupid stat like hat tricks before age 22 by Americans doesn’t change that Caufield is significantly better at scoring goals.

This season:
Boldy: 29 assists
Caufield: 10 assists (16 per 74 game pace)

Last two seasons
Boldy: 53 assists
Caufield: 31 assists

Boldy is better at generating goals for the team.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If Boldy was taken in the top 10 like he should've been, Caufield would've been a fine selection at #12.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Kind of an oversell there.

Not really. If he maintained his pace, he would have 14 more goals at this point.

Caufield is more of a one trick pony. Until he can add other elements to his game other than goal scoring, I still prefer Boldy.

I’ve never said Caufield is a better player. I’ve said he’s a better goal scorer and debatably a better fit for what the franchise needs (goal scoring). I do agree Boldy is a better player, but I will hold the line on the goal scoring and franchise needs assessment as “debatable” on if Caufield would be a better fit.

 

[thestonedkoala]

I’ve never said Caufield is a better player. I’ve said he’s a better goal scorer and debatably a better fit for what the franchise needs (goal scoring). I do agree Boldy is a better player, but I will hold the line on the goal scoring and franchise needs assessment as “debatable” on if Caufield would be a better fit.

Better fit for what? The team?

Boldy is a much better fit for the team.

 

[MuckOG]

I’ve never said Caufield is a better player. I’ve said he’s a better goal scorer and debatably a better fit for what the franchise needs (goal scoring). I do agree Boldy is a better player, but I will hold the line on the goal scoring and franchise needs assessment as “debatable” on if Caufield would be a better fit.

I wouldn't have had an issue with picking Caufield at 12 if Boldy was already gone. I just don't think Caufield's goal scoring ability outweighs everythng else that Boldy brings to the table. Caufield has a great shot, but Boldy is no slouch, either. Boldy may not be the sniper that Caufield is, but its inarguable that he does a better job at creating offense for the team in addition to himself.

Hypothetically, I would prefer Player A in any given season:

Player A: 35g 45 a
Player B: 48g 23 a

 

[TaLoN]

Caufield may be a bit better at "scoring" goals, but Boldy is better at "generating" goals by a significant margin.

 

[57special]

We also have to deduct points from Caufield because he was a Badger.

 

[Minnewildsota]

We also have to deduct points from Caufield because he was a Badger.

The only question is, how many?
I'd argue for all of them

 

[MuckOG]

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Years are a little off.

Boldy is about to turn 22.

Gaborik turned 20 in the middle of his first 30 goal season.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Boldy is a better fit for every team in the NHL than Caufield is. No GM would take Caufield to start a franchise over Boldy

 

[Digitalbooya]

Inexorable opinions with a reinforcement loop going on here. Smile, nod and move on

 

[TaLoN]

Years are a little off.

Boldy is about to turn 22.

Gaborik turned 20 in the middle of his first 30 goal season.

They did say 21 or younger before that. If Boldy does it before Apr 5th, he's in the window.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

They did say 21 or younger before that. If Boldy does it before Apr 5th, he's in the window.

Still seems pretty liberal at the end in order to try and fit them in the same window, which they're really not.

But yes, both under 22, just one way more than the other.

 

[MuckOG]

Still seems pretty liberal at the end in order to try and fit them in the same window, which they're really not.

But yes, both under 22, just one way more than the other.

Still pretty impressive though