Dreger: Marner negotiations could be a "battle"

[Jared Dunn]

I think Marner gets 8x8 and Matthews 8x10

 

[danielpalfredsson]

The solution would be for both sides to agree to a 4-6 year deal. Eichel signed for 8 years, as did McDavid. It's all relative to what each player is worth, but those 2 extra UFA years can be huge value wise. With where the cap is going, something like 6 years 7.5-8.5 million would be a fair middle ground and it'd still cost control Marner for a significant period of time.

If the Leafs want to go with the TBL model, they could bridge almost everybody, or buy up as few UFA years as possible. This would allow them to be more competitive in the next 4 or so seasons, but would have major trade offs down the line when their stars hit their UFA years and the Leafs either have to trade them, pay them more than they otherwise would had they locked them down 8 years initially (assuming they maintain their performance), or lose them for nothing to free agency very early in their careers.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

At this point, Marner should be getting somewhere between Pastrnak (low-end) and Gaudreau (high-end) money.

 

[member 157595]

With trying to keep Matthews this could be tricky... if Matthews goes to Arizona, they'll hand him a blank check.

Oh yeah, the Toronto Maple Leafs are completely terrified of the buying power of the Arizona freaking Coyotes.

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...

 

[justafan22]

The solution would be for both sides to agree to a 4-6 year deal. Eichel signed for 8 years, as did McDavid. It's all relative to what each player is worth, but those 2 extra UFA years can be huge value wise. With where the cap is going, something like 6 years 7.5-8.5 million would be a fair middle ground and it'd still cost control Marner for a significant period of time.

If the Leafs want to go with the TBL model, they could bridge almost everybody, or buy up as few UFA years as possible. This would allow them to be more competitive in the next 4 or so seasons, but would have major trade offs down the line when their stars hit their UFA years and the Leafs either have to trade them, pay them more than they otherwise would had they locked them down 8 years initially (assuming they maintain their performance), or lose them for nothing to free agency very early in their careers.

Marner's dad has an interesting past... all I'm going to say

 

[member 157595]

At this point, Marner should be getting somewhere between Pastrnak (low-end) and Gaudreau (high-end) money.

Quiet you, DREGER'S MAKING DRAMA!

 

[Not Sure]

With trying to keep Matthews this could be tricky... if Matthews goes to Arizona, they'll hand him a blank check.

And Leafs will match. He's an RFA, give up the pipe dream. Matthew's will end up in Arizona the same way Kane will end up in Buffalo, if they decide to take a 2-3 year deal in their late 30's just to say they played for the hometown team.

 

[Brian McDavid]

Marner's dad has an interesting past... all I'm going to say

Don't ''all I'm gonna say" us! Please go on...

 

[LeafFever]

Marner is going to have a monster season as well. I have a good chuckle when I read on HF Sabastien Aho is better.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Marner, if I had to guess, comes in at 8x8.25 or somewhere close to that. Matthews north of 10, Nylander 6.5-7.

 

[LeafFever]

He'd be a perfect #3C on long island

I agree. Marner is not good enough to crack the Islanders top 6.

 

[WTFMAN99]

They'll settle up for 7-8 years between 6-7.5M per.

 

[LeafFever]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH and the leafs thought they would fit Tavares because Marner "would only ask for 5.5-6M" god it should prove how clueless they are.

Yes because all Leaf fans said that and thought that.

 

[Hunter368]

Eichel money for Marner? WTF

The more money Marner gets that sure the hell means more money for AM. Eichel money for Marner, does that mean McDavid money for AM?

WTF

Could get ugly if true.

 

[justafan22]

Don't ''all I'm gonna say" us! Please go on...

Nothing too out there just that he's involved with minor league hockey, and is a helicopter parent to the max, and could be part of the negotiations here

 

[justafan22]

Eichel money for Marner? WTF

The more money Marner gets that sure the hell means more money for AM. Eichel money for Marner, does that mean McDavid money for AM?

WTF

Could get ugly if true.

Matthews one day could be worth McDavid money

Marner is unlikely to be worth Eichel money one day unless he goes up by quite a bit.

 

[LeafFever]

Eichel money for Marner? WTF

The more money Marner gets that sure the hell means more money for AM. Eichel money for Marner, does that mean McDavid money for AM?

WTF

Could get ugly if true.

Eichel's career high was 60 points at the time of the deal. He should not have gotten that much.
And blah, blah, blah, injuries. Marner's lack of TOI and PP opportunities limit his numbers just as much.

 

[kerrabria]

At this point, Marner should be getting somewhere between Pastrnak (low-end) and Gaudreau (high-end) money.

What? That's a difference of less than 150k.

And Gaudreau and Pastrnak play with significantly better players and will have signed when the cap was way lower.

If Marner puts up another 70 point season, with the agent he has, I would be floored to see him sign for less than 7m. Don't think he'll get (or deserves) higher than 8.5 though.

But, real talk, f*** the Oilers and the Sabres. The Eichel and Draisaitl contracts are just yet another way they are screwing over all the other teams without even benefiting from their mishaps themselves.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Matthews one day could be worth McDavid money

Marner is unlikely to be worth Eichel money one day unless he goes up by quite a bit.

I mean, Eichel isn't worth Eichel money. On an 8 year deal, agents are pushing for something that might be fair in year 4 if the cap keeps rising and RFAs keep getting paid.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

And Leafs will match. He's an RFA, give up the pipe dream. Matthew's will end up in Arizona the same way Kane will end up in Buffalo, if they decide to take a 2-3 year deal in their late 30's just to say they played for the hometown team.

Oh, I meant if Arizona made a trade Matthews trade with Toronto.

 

[DRW204]

Eichel probably doesn't deserve Eichel money, Marner surely doesn't. He'll sign for 6. 5-7.5M imo. This is typical contract negotiations

 

[voxel]

Once all is set and done Marner will get a deal similar to what David Pastrnak got.

Add cap inflation and it will be $7.25M or so. Not a bad deal for 6 years. For 8 years he will ask for more as he should.

 

[member 157595]

Eichel money for Marner? WTF

The more money Marner gets that sure the hell means more money for AM. Eichel money for Marner, does that mean McDavid money for AM?

WTF

Could get ugly if true.

Marner is absolutely not getting Eichel money in Toronto whether he likes it or not, and he knows that.

Both sides in a negotation open with somewhat unreasonable offers, and the two sides settle somewhere in between. This is how negotiations work unless you're Cliff Fletcher signing Jeff Finger.

 

[Not Sure]

Eichel's career high was 60 points at the time of the deal. He should not have gotten that much.
And blah, blah, blah, injuries. Marner's lack of TOI and PP opportunities limit his numbers just as much.

Stop being a homer, no one, not even Leafs fans, should be thinking Marner is worth as much as Eichel. Even if Eichel is overpaid or didn't deserve it at the time, Eichel is Buffalos franchise center and he drives nearly half of Buffalos overall offense. Even Matthew's doesn't have that big of a role on Toronto, but if anyone is getting franchise center money it's going to be Torontos franchise center. Nothing against Marner, hes a great player, but Eichel is not his comparable.

 

[unicornpig]

Marner is going to have a monster season as well. I have a good chuckle when I read on HF Sabastien Aho is better.

looks at who marner plays with looks at who aho plays with. i have a good chuckle when i read leafs fans posts.