TSN: Marner’s Agent: UPDATE: No contract talks until after the season.

[Walshy7]

Yep they were 2 of the commentators talking about it, also Hayes and Noodles were talking about it too.

those 2 a crazy for the most negative slant to anything. Ive noticed hays, noodles and the odog talk about dregers info like they believe but why would they say "I don't believe it" its the same station that is looking for hits. For example hayes talks about Steve Simmons like he is actually a good reporter I cant honestly believe any well informed sports fan thinks that about simmons, I just cant

 

[Face Of Bear]

I still think there's an off-chance dubas drops a bomb and signs all 3 before the season starts

 

[Walshy7]

just out of curiosity wondering if 3 different agents are "legally" allowed to talk to each other regarding what are the Leafs offering for each player
???

of course they are. And the leafs should be encouraging it, the only way nylander buys into a discount is if he is convinced the other 2 will as well, imagine he takes a discount and next year Marner and Matthews take every cent they are worth he'd feel pretty stupid.

For the record I don't hold it against any player taking as much as they can get, its up to management to make it work not the players. Obviously if they were so inclined id be stocked but I don't ever expect someone to do it

 

[PromisedLand]

I don't know for a fact but I would think its OK.

this may not end well for us to be seen I guess

 

[PromisedLand]

of course they are. And the leafs should be encouraging it, the only way nylander buys into a discount is if he is convinced the other 2 will as well, imagine he takes a discount and next year Marner and Matthews take every cent they are worth he'd feel pretty stupid.

For the record I don't hold it against any player taking as much as they can get, its up to management to make it work not the players. Obviously if they were so inclined id be stocked but I don't ever expect someone to do it

I was thinking along the lines of not really discount but if marner and matthews are making X dollars why am I getting X-3million dollars?

similarly for Marner; if Matthews is making X dollars why am I making X-Y dollars (Y=2 to 3 million)

 

[Mickey Marner]

they'll regret it, very good chance he gets $10M x 8 next summer. what if he wins the Art Ross? try $12M.

There is no chance of any of this happening.

 

[stickty111]

All of this makes you realize what a bargain Kadri is

Yeah but Plekanac is better then him.

 

[TakeTheBody]

If they signed today does Nylander get more than Marner?

Only if silver is worth more than gold.

 

[Advanced stats]

this may end well for us to be seen I guess

I don't see how that could end well tbh..

 

[PromisedLand]

I don't see how that could end well tbh..

typo meant to say not end well. fixed now

 

[ACC1224]

Yup , I actually got a queasy feeling in my belly when they floated that idea.

I'm sure Matthews and Marner are "queasy" at the idea of spending their careers in New jersey.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

I think Leafs management has kicked things into high gear trying to get him signed before puck drop. After witnessing his preseason, they must have become a lot more eager to avoid the amounts he might command next summer.

 

[diceman934]

Watch them all get signed the same day before the season, and Dubas is quoted saying "LOL. Nobody asked about Marner and Matthews"

Dubas was asked that question and his reply was we are not going to get them signed this summer.

 

[diceman934]

what do you expect the agent to say here? "nah we are holding out for Max $$$"? If Marner wants to sign he will sign, but he has the ;luxury of putting up serious numbers this season with JT if he wasn't to max his next contract he will wait, there is no way the leafs will pay him any more than $7.5 before he plays this season that's just stupid

If he would agree to a deal today at 8m Dubas would not be able to get his pen out fast enough.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Getting Marner and Nylander done before the season would be so nice. No hurry with Matthews. If we sign him now, he'll get around $11M, and if we wait a season he'll mostly just continue to build a case for that number. The market for that kind of player is weird like that. He'd have to do something absolutely insane to actually push that number even higher.

 

[Mugzy97]

Nylander 6.5M
Marner 7M
Matthews 9.5M
23M

 

[wc17]

Nylander 6.5M
Marner 7M
Matthews 9.5M
23M

Youre gonna be so dissapointed when the real numbers start to come in...

 

[Walshy7]

If he would agree to a deal today at 8m Dubas would not be able to get his pen out fast enough.

maybe, im less sure on that. Kucherov will be leafs chief comparable he is $9.5M had 100 points and a 40 goal season too. Marner at 90 points doesn't go past that so even if marner has 100 points id stick with Kucherov (I know about the tax situation but it is less of an issue than its made out to be)

hell even Stamkos is a good comparable couple of 90 points seasons

 

[Mugzy97]

Youre gonna be so dissapointed when the real numbers start to come in...

No I won't

 

[Brown Dog]

Sigh. The salary cap is such a drag.

We're on the verge of maybe the most anticipated season in the 30+ years I've been cheering for the Leafs. We just signed arguably the best UFA in the salary cap era. We have a cadre of young stars including a homegrown first overall pick who might be one of the best 2 or 3 players in the league.

And 90% of the discussion is about the friggin cap. . Wish we could have just one year where we don't have to concern ourselves with all this math and just enjoy the on-ice stuff!

 

[Mugzy97]

Wish we could have just one year where we don't have to concern ourselves with all this math and just enjoy the on-ice stuff!

This year is literally the one you speak of. We don't need to worry about it right now, save for Nylander's situation.

 

[Brown Dog]

This year is literally the one you speak of. We don't need to worry about it right now, save for Nylander's situation.

Technically. But the spectre of next year's cap crunch makes it moot. We'll all be wringing our hands until all the big guys are signed long-term. And then the hand-wringing will begin about how to keep the support guys.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Nylander 6.5M
Marner 7M
Matthews 9.5M
23M

I think that's pretty close with AM perhaps a little higher

 

[Mugzy97]

Technically. But the spectre of next year's cap crunch makes it moot. We'll all be wringing our hands until all the big guys are signed long-term. And then the hand-wringing will begin about how to keep the support guys.

True. Could be worse problems to have, like wondering if we'll win the draft lottery or not.

 

[Kamiccolo]

I've said it before but if they go into the year with no contract for these guys I will consider it the first big failure of management.

You simply do NOT go into a year with a talent like Matthews needing a deal. Just pay him the 11M we all know he will get. Otherwise he could sign a 12.5 offersheet easily and force their hand.

And Marner is coming into Matthews territory. Rather just pay him the Kucherov deal now then 10.5 in a year.

It's more important to get those two signed than it is Nylander. It's just the way it is. Sign them to what they are asking and offer Nylander the rest or tell him he will be moved.