Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - It's finally puckdrop, baby!

[SeaOfBlue]

I think it's a mistake to keep Liljegren (and Robertson) on the Marlies for much longer. Bad habits can creep into your game if you're playing at a level that's too easy for you. Young players need to be challenged to keep growing

Robertson still has things to learn, and Liljegren can develop his mental toughness. It's either play here or sit on the taxi squad, and I am sure he would rather play right now.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Robertson still has things to learn, and Liljegren can develop his mental toughness. It's either play here or sit on the taxi squad, and I am sure he would rather play right now.

Liljegren was a dominant AHL defenseman last season. I don't think he has anything to prove at this level anymore. Robertson should just be on the Marlies for a few games to get back up to speed. He's already played in the NHL and looked like he belongs

 

[Atomos2]

I really like the Stockton heat announcer. Very positive even in a blowout lol. But he’s definitely one of the better ones out there

 

[Randy Randerson]

I think it's a mistake to keep Liljegren (and Robertson) on the Marlies for much longer. Bad habits can creep into your game if you're playing at a level that's too easy for you. Young players need to be challenged to keep growing

The NHL team is at the stage that results trump prospect development unfortunately. We're not the first team to be in that position, and it's not necessarily a death sentence for development of future prospects, especially when the organization is made of money.

 

[LeafChief]

Can someone clip Liljegren absolutely dancing that winger? Looked like Makar on that play.

 

[Leaffan1991]

I can see Gaudet becoming a fourth liner in the NHL

 

[stickty111]

 

[Atomos2]

Kivahalme is like a rover out there. Literally looks like he wants to be a forward

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

The NHL team is at the stage that results trump prospect development unfortunately. We're not the first team to be in that position, and it's not necessarily a death sentence for development of future prospects, especially when the organization is made of money.

True. I think it's easy to make a case for Robertson being better than Vesey right now though

 

[Morgs]

Not a good sequence there for Kivihalme

 

[Morgs]

I'd like to have seen Liljegren attack at the blueline there, but that's just being nitpicky.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I can see Gaudet becoming a fourth liner in the NHL

I think he should stay in the AHL. Although definitely helps if he continues playing like he does. Last year he struggled hard.

 

[Kiwi]

He's not giving up his blue line, he's forcing the puck carrier to the outside, he's using his body to separate players from the puck, then moving the puck quickly and efficiently out of his own zone or to a teammate in a better position

What kind of sorcery is this

 

[Morgs]

There's something that bugs me about Robby, but I'm not sure if I'm crazy.

It seems whenever he gets the puck he just... stops skating. Opens his legs, glides, and instead of driving he kind of just waits for the play to develop.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Kivahalme is like a rover out there. Literally looks like he wants to be a forward

Hollowell is not much better, and they are playing together. I don't think that pairing has had a good game yet. Their defensive games leave a lot to desire, and Hollowell hasn't done much offensive either.

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

The team looks 1000x better under Moore than last season. Not sure what happened, but that's good to see.

 

[Leafs1991]

He's not giving up his blue line, he's forcing the puck carrier to the outside, he's using his body to separate players from the puck, then moving the puck quickly and efficiently out of his own zone or to a teammate in a better position

What kind of sorcery is this

Dark magic sorcery.

I thought his development had been hindered though?

I wouldn't be surprised though that if Liljegren was up in the NHL and struggling after making the team out of camp, those posters would still blame Dubas for bringing him up too early this season haha.

 

[Leafs1991]

The team looks 1000x better under Moore than last season. Not sure what happened, but that's good to see.

Proper time to implement the systems and coach his team. It's hard to come in mid-season.

 

[Kiwi]

Dark magic sorcery.

I thought his development had been hindered though?

I wouldn't be surprised though that if Liljegren was up in the NHL and struggling after making the team out of camp, those posters would still blame Dubas for bringing him up too early this season haha.

To be fair Liljegren looked bloody good last year as well, the kid is solid as a rock

I don't mind him fighting for a spot but I'd like to see a path for him to make the NHL team sooner rather than later

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

To be fair Liljegren looked bloody good last year as well, the kid is solid as a rock

I don't mind him fighting for a spot but I'd like to see a path for him to make the NHL team sooner rather than later

It would be easy enough to do a rotation on the bottom pair with Bogosian during the regular season, similar to what Tampa did with Bogosian/Schenn/Coburn last year.

Dermott is a better partner than Liljegren had for most of his 100 minutes last year so it would be an ideal situation while everyone was healthy.

 

[Kiwi]

It would be easy enough to do a rotation on the bottom pair with Bogosian during the regular season, similar to what Tampa did with Bogosian/Schenn/Coburn last year.

Dermott is a better partner than Liljegren had for most of his 100 minutes last year so it would be an ideal situation while everyone was healthy.

The problem is we already have 3 guys rotating through the bottom pair as is, that's with a Sandin injury

Unless we get some injuries it's hard to see him getting a run of games, which is better for him imo

He seems to thrive on work, so that 10 minutes a game play 1 miss 2 isn't ideal by any stretch of the imagination

 

[LeafChief]

The problem is we already have 3 guys rotating through the bottom pair as is, that's with a Sandin injury

Unless we get some injuries it's hard to see him getting a run of games, which is better for him imo

He seems to thrive on work, so that 10 minutes a game play 1 miss 2 isn't ideal by any stretch of the imagination

Agreed. If Liljegren is going to get a shot at the NHL, he needs to be given some rope. Otherwise, leave him where he is for now.

 

[Stephen]

Hollowell is not much better, and they are playing together. I don't think that pairing has had a good game yet. Their defensive games leave a lot to desire, and Hollowell hasn't done much offensive either.

Does anyone know why Mac Hollowell was subject of speculation that the Leafs would use him this year? He seems so far down the depth chart, doesn't have any real track record in the AHL or other immediate NHL ready qualities to speak of.

 

[LeafChief]

Does anyone know why Mac Hollowell was subject of speculation that the Leafs would use him this year? He seems so far down the depth chart, doesn't have any real track record in the AHL or other immediate NHL ready qualities to speak of.

He was playing in Finland during the COVID shutdown. He happened to come back over to Toronto at the same time Thornton, Sandin, Matthews and Nylander were returning to Toronto from their homes abroad so they all got together and quarantined in the same house. There were some instagram pictures posted and I think that gave people the idea that Hollowell was further along than he actually is.

Matthews also specifically pumped his tires in a post.

 

[Prominence]

Does anyone know why Mac Hollowell was subject of speculation that the Leafs would use him this year? He seems so far down the depth chart, doesn't have any real track record in the AHL or other immediate NHL ready qualities to speak of.

I have him ahead of kivihalme, duszak, rosen. I think rubins has more detail and is better at facing incoming forecheck pressure, but hollowell has more potential for his puckhandling and skating. Hollowell is definitely not better than liljegren. His skating is nhl ready, but i think he needs a larger role, which he will get when liljegren gets promoted due to injuries or a certain defenseman’s regression.

Hollowell was the subject of speculation because he was drafted by dubas in the soo and the former assistant gm of the marlies has frequently expressed optimism towards hollowell’s development as hollowell is hard-working and has iq (at least in juniors and mestis).