TSN: Markov signing discussions

Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by Habernack, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Habsterix*

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    I'm expecting $18-20M for 4 (argh) years with most of the pay front loaded to the maximum allowed by the new CBA.

    I'd rather see two years for more money, or three years max.
     
  2. LyricalLyricist

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    Drewiske makes 0.637 mil average. I think that's pretty far...

    As for Boullion, giving a 2 year deal is not the same as 2 one year deals. You can reassess after every year. I don't mind boullion, I mind his playing time.
     
  3. MB going to do his usual horrible contract. I expect Markov to get 6 million or something ridiculous.
     
  4. Hullois

    Hullois Suck it Trebek

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    That Pacioretty 6 years at $4.5m cap hit deal sure is horrible.
     
  5. Avengers*

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    give him the same deal as last time and be over with it!
     
  6. Et le But

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    That's less than the percentage of his current contract adjusted to the cap. Considering the market for PMD, if Markov takes anything under 6 he's giving a hometown discount, and even 6 would probably not be his lowest offer.

    I'd be happy with his current contract.
     
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    I'm glad to hear this news, some people doesn't seems to see how imporant Markov is on this team.

    Let's hope that with the money he is saving by doing the negotiations himself he will take a discount !
     
  8. Ollie Williams

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    Let's not forget the fact that at this stage in his career, he could opt for getting a better chance at the cup on a different team. This stuff plays a role in such decisions. I think he likes playing here more than people want to admit, not just the $$$.
     
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    I have always like Andrei. Great Hab! I would love seeing him signed. Tough decision for Bergevin as he has three young D knocking on the door.
     
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    Dang it Markov!
    I was all for trading him to the highest bidder, now not so much!
    Great to see a player so dedicated to the habs!
    Only hope he's willing to take a hometown discount!
     
  11. Habssince89

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    if the 4 years rumour is correct, then I'm very happy. Even if he is surpassed by other Dmen in the ES usage during the next few seasons, Markov can literally make or break a powerplay. His vision, shot, passing, and creativity have not diminished at all and I doubt he's going to have any further significant drop off in mobility (unless he somehow plays way longer than expected)

    4-5 mil is fine by me, and that's not being sentimental. This guy is an asset, a very good brain to have in the room to help others think the game better (24Ch has good evidence of this). He's a leader, a professional, and clearly he loves the city and the team.

    Sign him Marc. We have no one to replace him and if/when our D prospects make the jump, having Markov will be such a boost to both their development, and the team's performance.
     
  12. Price My Man Crush

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    That's the only good one on all the deals he did...
     
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    4 yr deal at 4.5M AAV

    6-5-4-3

    with the Cap potentially going up to as high as 90+ mill the contract cap hit will be negligible in the latter years.
     
  14. Habssince89

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    Budaj?
     
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    So much disrespect for Markov in this thread. I can understand hoping for a hometown discount, but $4mil/year? Even $5mil/year is an insult.
     
  16. Hullois

    Hullois Suck it Trebek

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    Subban bridge deal
     
  17. Price My Man Crush

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    Lol. Not the right place to talk about that and most people here already know my opinion about that deal.
     
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    Markov is a good guy...don't be disrespectful and expect him to accept anything less than what he is worth which is between 6-7 per.He will accept less for a 4 year term id imagine but not any where in the 4-5.75 range so stop dreaming people.
     
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    Not a chance you get Markov for less than 5 mill. He may be getting older but he's still an outstanding D man. He could get 7 mill from a team for sure.
     
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    This is just wrong. Because an agent makes a small %, their primary incentive is to get a player under a contract rather than squeeze out every last dollar and risk the player losing a contract. They make far more from just getting the player under contract. Players are rewarded far more by getting a larger contract because they keep a large % of their money.

    Why do people in general assume that players aren't the ones who want the money when everyone else in the world doesÉ
     
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    What a stinkin BEAAASSSSTTTTT!!!! They better re-sign this tank. Markov started his career here and will end it here. Loyalty.
     
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    3 years, 5.75 million would be fantastic.
     
  23. The Gal Pals

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    Or it means that he's willing to sign for less but in the end not having to pay an agent 15% of his salary means he'll pocket more money.
     
  24. Whitesnake

    Whitesnake In my opinion.....

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    3 would be fine with me. Bergevin will give him 4.
     
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    Makes sense only for fringe NHLers. In that specific case, I would definitely agree with you. Having 600k instead of 500k is nice, especially when your shelf life is short and you have no other skills. You can better plan your retirement.

    However, it doesn't work like this for regulars, IMO. All top 6-9 forwards, top 4 D and about 40 or 50 goalies are 100% sure to have a 10 years career no matter what. It's not like a greedy agent would keep a good player at home. My point, if it was not clear:

    4M x 0.03 = 120k
    5M x 0.03 = 150k
    6M x 0.03 = 180k

    The player won't probably use the extra 1 or 2M, it will sit in his bank account for years and it will end up being wasted on non-essential stuff. On the other hand, the agent REALLY wants the extra 20 or 30k so he can send his kids to a better school or buy a bigger house or whatever.

    Well, most players (and their parents) have been brainwashed by pushy agents since they were 14 years old...

    I remember very well that Patches' agent was not really happy when his extension was signed. I'm speculating here, but it's possible that the agent advised Patches to turn down the offer and ask for more. And maybe Patches knows better.

    Same goes for Crosby, he could ask for 12M, but he knows it would simply cripple his team.
     

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