TSN: Markov signing discussions

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  1. Habernack

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    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=441151

    Obviously wants to stay and is conducting his own negotiations.

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  2. Blind Gardien

    Blind Gardien nexus of the crisis

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    I like the odds when he's representing himself. Bold move, he seems to know what he wants. I think we can draw optimism from that.
     
  3. hototogisu

    hototogisu Poked the bear!!!!!

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    Good point. I doubt he would be representing himself if he were looking to test the waters in July, considering he has never hit free agency once in his career.
     
  4. Runner77

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    From the piece:

    A Haley's comet type comment. I wish we'd see it more often. Hopefully we get a deal done soon so we can dispose of other pending issues more swiftly.
     
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  5. FlyingKostitsyn

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    Bold move indeed, but he might accept a hometown discount to stay here. His agent likely would have disagreed.
     
  6. Jigger77

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    Personally I have a ton of respect for players who do this. Not a fan of agents at all.
     
  7. What's that expression means? I never heard it before
     
  8. Odelein24

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    It's a comment that doesn't come around very often (once every 80 years for Haley's comet iirc.).
     
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    If we can get Markov for a fair price I'm Sure it will help in the PK negotiations.
     
  10. Tuggy

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    I'm definitely not super keen on a long term deal for Markov at this point. A 2 year deal would be ideal.
     
  11. Runner77

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    Exaggeration about how rarely we see a player say he wants to end his career with the Habs. Just like Haley's comet, which only appears periodically.
     
  12. Monctonscout

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    2-3 years at anything close to his current cap hit is a no brainer. Would cost 6.5 mil to replace him.
     
  13. WalkWithElias40

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    Markov better stay here until his retirement.

    General Markov is still in shape to play for several years.

    4m seems decent.
    We will see.
     
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    Markov's will look to finish his career in Montreal. He always strikes as a routine-type of person, looking to avoid changes. Given his age and injuries, he may look for job security more than money. Without an agent, I'd say that the possibility of having a win-win situation is greater.
     
  15. Ezpz

    Ezpz No mad pls

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    Would cost Galchenyuk or Gallagher to replace him. There are no UFA's even close to Markov's level.
     
  16. GoodKiwi

    GoodKiwi Don't drink & root

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    Hopefully the term isn't longer than 2 years.
     
  17. Phil Parent

    Phil Parent The Lama Of GEEZ

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    Is it possible to sign somebody as a player for x years and then guarantee an office/coach job for x years?

    I think he should stay with us when he retires. I think he would make a good technical advisor or something. No cap on staff expenses, so we can keep him.
     
  18. Habaneros

    Habaneros Habs Cup champs 2010

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    Simple negotiations here...no agent necessary.

    Montreal gives him a long term deal to retire....or the Washington Capitals will.....
     
  19. Smokey Thompson

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    You mean Detroit lol
     
  20. Brainiac

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    Neither am I. The agent works for himself, not the player. Since they take a very small percentage of the money, they do all they can to drive up the AAV.

    Now, it seems nice, as a player, to have the maximum possible amount of money, but I beg to differ.

    Scenario #1: You make 8-9M a year for 10 years, but you have to play with average linemates (or D partner).

    Scenario #2: You make 6M a year for 10 years, and the team can afford to spend an extra 2-3M to get you a better linemate (or D partner).

    It takes only 2 or 3 guys on a team to agree to go for #2 and boom! The team can spend an extra 6, 7, 8M to get quality players for supporting roles.

    I'd rather earn 60M on a perennial contender than 80M on a bubble team.

    Now, before you bring me the phony argument that I, myself, would take the job that pays more: it's not the same. The difference between 60K and 80K is huge, because you actually spend the extra money on something relevant. The difference between 60M and 80M is... 20M sitting in your bank account (yay!). If you think you really need that extra 20M, then you have a problem.
     
  21. Riggins

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    I want it to be 2 years but I'm guessing we will have to make it 3, probably at a similar price tag but maybe a little higher.
     
  22. Smokey Thompson

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    I have a feeling Markov will sign a discount contract in an attempt to win a cup as a Hab.

    The fact that he wants to retire here and fired his agent in order to negotiate his own contract leads me to believe he's looking for 3-4 years with a cap hit around $4m.
     
  23. Dannyhab

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    I'm with Shawn Campbell from TSN on this one. There is no way Markov signs for something like $4M. In free agency, he gets at least 3 years, likely 4 at 6M per year.

    If he's looking to finish his career and is more interested in term, we may see something like $6M, 6M 5M, 4M, 4M. Cap hit $5M. He is 100% worth it. Would cost $6.5 to replace him.

    Don't undervalue Markov.
     
  24. Monctonscout

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    I think he'll give the Habs a home town discount...but not at 60 cents on the dollar, that's a bit much.

    Those are all below market value and good for both sides. He can get 500k at least more/year on each of those.

    4 years 22 mil(6.25-6-5.25-4.5)
    3 years 17.25 mil
    2 years 12 mil
     
  25. PsychoticHab

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    Anything from 2-3 years and between $4.5M-$5.75M IMO is a great deal that will continue to help us. (Even a little higher in the money wouldn't be too bad)

    As he's already 35 we can't risk adding more years but a deal around those terms will allow us to keep The General while he helps us build a contender.
     

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